This game is TWO MONTHS old.

I like how these fanbois only see the development time in terms of WoW's advantage over SWTOR. As though the TOR devs couldn't have seen WoW's development and learned from it.

SWTOR should have more features at release than WoW did in 2004. Otherwise what would be the point of new games? Do fanbois even know what logic is? The problem isn't that SWTOR doesn't have everything WoW does. The problem is that SWTOR has issues that should have been resolved long, long ago.

I hate that game. Good try though; it's cute that you think I care what you think of me.

Sure, we can play our sad violins for the developers because launching an MMO is so difficult and they deserve the benefit of the doubt. We should throw our money at them because they deserve it. We owe it to them for having put themselves out there to bring us this slice of heaven called TOR.

The reality is that I--and I assume many others--only have the time and money to invest in one MMO at a time. So we have to pick and choose which is most appealing...

Put TOR up against any current subscription-based MMO and its foundation begins to falter. I'm not at all claiming that TOR is a bad game, but I am suggesting that other games are a better value you for your money on the basis that they provide more... stuff to do.

Is it not a fact that there are other MMOs that are more polished and provide more content than TOR? Rhetorical question. Your insistence on using the "it's a new game" argument proves to me that you realize other games are more polished and offer more content.

So since you're arguing in defense of the developers and the game, give me some reasons why I should spend my money here and not on any other game?

EDIT - I love that when anyone brings up TOR's competition, but does not name names, the defense squad always brings up WoW. Yet in the same breath, they're the first to shout at you if you do compare the two...

Dont get me wrong, i play swtor, and i like it. But not everyone is a.) an SW fan or just done with WoW. If you start an game new, the first thing i said applies. You play the "better" one.
Bioware has to keep this in mind. And i dont talk about endgame.


A new MMO MUST keep the player busy the first month (And IMHO SWTor does), so they start the subscription. It's an old rule, if players stop playing an mmo, they rarely come back.

The Problem i have with swtor are stuff like the interface, which is really crappy. I tried today to play with an resolution of 3960 x 1050 and know what ? he STILL closed the third window i opened even if there are tons of space to the left and right. Thats a no go, together with not moveable frames.

I like how these fanbois only see the development time in terms of WoW's advantage over SWTOR. As though the TOR devs couldn't have seen WoW's development and learned from it.

SWTOR should have more features at release than WoW did in 2004. Otherwise what would be the point of new games? Do fanbois even know what logic is? The problem isn't that SWTOR doesn't have everything WoW does. The problem is that SWTOR has issues that should have been resolved long, long ago.

What gets me is that you all compare this game to others forgetting a few facts along the way :

1) They had TONS of successful or mostly successful MMOs to look at , and find what people liked about them.

2) They had the cash to implement it.

3) They had a team that supposedly had experience.

4) They failed miserably on 1-3.

This isnt 2001 here folks. For the amount of Time and Cash they had I expect competence in design. They didnt deliver.

Now you can argue everything all you want, but it just makes you look like a bunch of morons. The game is heavily flawed, plays like 2002 console , and has the lasting appeal of decaying food. And yes. Its 2 months old.

What gets me is that you all compare this game to others forgetting a few facts along the way :

1) They had TONS of successful or mostly successful MMOs to look at , and find what people liked about them.

2) They had the cash to implement it.

3) They had a team that supposedly had experience.

4) They failed miserably on 1-3.

This isnt 2001 here folks. For the amount of Time and Cash they had I expect competence in design. They didnt deliver.

Now you can argue everything all you want, but it just makes you look like a bunch of morons. The game is heavily flawed, plays like 2002 console , and has the lasting appeal of decaying food. And yes. Its 2 months old.

SO what you're saying is, it looks pixilated, can only be played at 1024X768, you can see maybe 4 or 5 people around you before you start lagging horribly and doesn't have HD graphics? Cause that's what the games from 2001 really are like. Want me to go back with you? Stop trying to sound smart, because i was there back in 01 playing those games, hunny. I can tell you what those games were like. Some of them were awesome. They looked awesome back then. Going back now, they look like crap, play like crap and have the architecture of crap. Need i go on?