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This game is TWO MONTHS old.

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RudeDog
02.23.2012 , 10:55 AM | #461
Quote: Originally Posted by Citywok View Post
That isn't trolling, that's the truth. Some immature people like you can't handle the truth when a point is being made,
When someone says "Go play that game, good riddance, I sure as hell won't miss you." I would say they are the person being immature and trolling.

If you are not smart enough to realize that telling people to leave hurts the overall game I don't know what to tell you...

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LucisAbyssus
02.23.2012 , 10:58 AM | #462
Quote: Originally Posted by RudeDog View Post
When someone says "Go play that game, good riddance, I sure as hell won't miss you." I would say they are the person being immature and trolling.

If you are not smart enough to realize that telling people to leave hurts the overall game I don't know what to tell you...
Please don't act like a messiah. We wouldn't be telling these people to leave if they would actually be productive.

Their "production" consists of whining without any sensible advice for Bioware other than FIX IT!

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Knewt
02.23.2012 , 10:59 AM | #463
Quote: Originally Posted by LucisAbyssus View Post
Did you seriously just offer a news paper over a professional Analyst AND EA Board? The people who invested the money in this game? Lol. I would discount it, as he himself did in his blog.
The LA Time is a very reputable newspaper and has a very good bead on the video games industry. When they say "Wall Street analysts", that means they interviewed Wall Street analysts. Maybe you should go do some research about how newspapers differ from blogs.

You should take everything a Wall Street Analyst says with a huge grain of salt. They usually have a huge conflict of interest since their firms will routinely handle extremely large equity offerings from corporations.

Quote: Originally Posted by LucisAbyssus View Post
That's because I'm not trolling people. If these people you speak of cared at all about the game, they would do something more constructive than post "this game is failing and they need to do something fast!".
When you tell people to leave the game, you are trolling them. You are not having a discussion. You're telling them off.
Ray Muzyka: "When you deliver a game, and you deliver it for a player, you have to capture what they think is the possibility space."

Ray, you failed to deliver my possibility space.

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FiveDeadlyVenoms
02.23.2012 , 11:00 AM | #464
Quote: Originally Posted by RudeDog View Post
AOC had content (i.e. quests all the way to the level cap). If the poster had said he didn't like the quests or didn't have anything to do at cap he would have been right, but saying there was no content after 20 is just false.

Ask anyone that played AOC and they will tell you how it sucked after tortage. The only people who really liked the game were the hardcore player types because you were able to belittle people and express your true Epeen.

AOC was not ready to go Live at launch. it was rushed out and it was pretty obvious

had limited amount of instances and even fewer raids

had games breaking glitches and bugs

had no class balance

Stabbing myself in the arm with a knife was more fun then lvling in AOC. only asian MMo's love lvling and have honestly made it into a artform.

AOC had a Nasty, Selfish community on top of that

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LucisAbyssus
02.23.2012 , 11:02 AM | #465
Quote: Originally Posted by Knewt View Post
The LA Time is a very reputable newspaper and has a very good bead on the video games industry. When they say "Wall Street analysts", that means they interviewed Wall Street analysts. Maybe you should go do some research about how newspapers differ from blogs.

You should take everything a Wall Street Analyst says with a huge grain of salt. They usually have a huge conflict of interest since their firms will routinely handle extremely large equity offerings from corporations.


When you tell people to leave the game, you are trolling them. You are not having a discussion. You're telling them off.
THE LA TIMES DOESN'T HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SW:TOR BUDGET THAN EA! Jesus, lol.

Any information you put out doesn't compute with what EA has to say on the matter, about THEIR OWN NUMBERS.

A budget around 75-80 million dollars makes a lot more sense in relation to what EA has to say about their profit margins.

I'm not trolling them, if anything people like me do Bioware a favor, because they aren't productive.

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Emeda
02.23.2012 , 11:03 AM | #466
Quote: Originally Posted by FiveDeadlyVenoms View Post
because $15 is a lot of money???????

This game is already 20 times better then galaxies was. if I remember correctly Sony almost started a revolution on their forums when they decided to change elements in their game.

Its more expensive to go to the movies for 2 people then it is to Play TOR, and then you'll be lucky if the movie doesn't suck. Forget about a family of 4.

how many MMO's are out where you can play in some stupid fantasy world?


what people don't realize is that MMO's are one of the hardest things to make, NOTHING IS GUARANTEED.
If SWTOR was 20x better than SWG and SWG sucked so bad that no one wanted to play it then how is it the the CU/NGE almost started a revolution as you say it on their forums? No one liked the game right so everyone was welcoming the SWWOW.

IF something sucks so bad that no one plays it and then they change it and everyone reconizes it as the biggest blunder in all the gaming world then that is actually saying the game didnt suck. If it really sucked no one would of even cared about the change and they would have gained subs when they did it.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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RudeDog
02.23.2012 , 11:04 AM | #467
Quote: Originally Posted by LucisAbyssus View Post
Please don't act like a messiah. We wouldn't be telling these people to leave if they would actually be productive.

Their "production" consists of whining without any sensible advice for Bioware other than FIX IT!
There have been quite a few posts of people providing positive feedback with numerous other poster basically telling them to to "go back to SWG, WOW, etc.". Also, plenty of posters are complaining, quite rightly IMO, about the lack of features in a game that had a huge budget and a ton of development time.

Not sure why you think your opinion is more valid than theirs. Maybe you should just stop telling people to leave? Their opinion is just as relevant as your opinion and telling someone to leave is just so...low class...

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LucisAbyssus
02.23.2012 , 11:05 AM | #468
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
If SWTOR was 20x better than SWG and SWG sucked so bad that no one wanted to play it then how is it the the CU/NGE almost started a revolution as you say it on their forums? No one liked the game right so everyone was welcoming the SWWOW.

IF something sucks so bad that no one plays it and then they change it and everyone reconizes it as the biggest blunder in all the gaming world then that is actually saying the game didnt suck. If it really sucked no one would of even cared about the change and they would have gained subs when they did it.
SWG is dead. SW:TOR is not. There was no revolution. It was just most of their player base jumping ship and leaving behind graveyards of homes.

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LucisAbyssus
02.23.2012 , 11:08 AM | #469
Quote: Originally Posted by RudeDog View Post
There have been quite a few posts of people providing positive feedback with numerous other poster basically telling them to to "go back to SWG, WOW, etc.". Also, plenty of posters are complaining, quite rightly IMO, about the lack of features in a game that had a huge budget and a ton of development time.

Not sure why you think your opinion is more valid than theirs. Maybe you should just stop telling people to leave? Their opinion is just as relevant as your opinion and telling someone to leave is just so...low class...
Huge budget is 80 million with the main average of around 60 or so million spent on the game and the extra 17 million or so to voice acting and motion capture footage for their animations.

An opinion can be relevant, but it doesn't have to be USEFUL, which most of them aren't. Telling the Company to FIX IT NOW, WE WANT IT NOW, ARGGGAGAGAGAGA isn't productive in the slightest.

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FiveDeadlyVenoms
02.23.2012 , 11:09 AM | #470
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
If SWTOR was 20x better than SWG and SWG sucked so bad that no one wanted to play it then how is it the the CU/NGE almost started a revolution as you say it on their forums? No one liked the game right so everyone was welcoming the SWWOW.

IF something sucks so bad that no one plays it and then they change it and everyone reconizes it as the biggest blunder in all the gaming world then that is actually saying the game didnt suck. If it really sucked no one would of even cared about the change and they would have gained subs when they did it.

Yes, I agree with you Galaxies was the biggest blunder in History. it did suck . Some things they did right and others they did wrong just like every other MMO out right now.

If I remember correctly you couldn't even be a Jedi in galaxies. you had to unlock it.

I can probably Google galaxies right now and still see what a mess it was. Sony is a joke

you really think DCOU is the success because of that idiot smeadly?? The only thing he did right was hired Jim Lee