This game is TWO MONTHS old.

Ok, polite suggestion here, if you're not gonna make sense don't insist on arguing.


Your original statement was it should be perfect because its the year 2012. Response was if thats the case, everything should be perfect and nothing should ever break/crash.

Your response was "yes, solaris and aix havent crashed in 1x years". I thought you were mistaken on how long theyve been around and you were commenting on their lifetime, which is a fair assumption based on what you responded to.

Then you call me a fanboy, which leads me to believe you have no idea what that word even means.


Did I miss anything?

I never last longer than 3 months playing WoW either so i think Bioware hit their mark. :P

*sigh*

Look honestly the argument that because the game is new therefore it can't be compared to something that's been out for 7 years already isn't a valid argument either and here's why:

Using Starcraft as an example, so Starcraft 2 doesn't have to be any better, or run any smoother because its not fair to compare an old game to a new game right?

This whole argument is pointless honestly. There are those players who feel this is how MMO's operate, they are released buggy, have issues and low on content, but over time that gets fixed and the game is where they want it to be.

Then you have players who expect more out of the gate, longer beta periods where the game is pretty set until the next expansion. As many people pointed out back when WoW released there wasn't much of a market for MMO's. Now the market is saturated with MANY MANY MMO's more than any of us could ever play.

Thing is both parties have a valid point. So if you're not happy with how the game is going, submit all the feedback you can in game , and if you're really opposed then stop paying. However to those of you telling people just to quit and leave the game, you're hurting yourselves because that less money coming in for support.

personally i dont see any insult in being called a fanboy if i love something and i am a fan of it i am a fanboy


whats so wrong with that

I dont have a problem with the word itself, when used as originally intended its not an insult. What I object to is when people use it as one and the intent behind it.

Hey OP,

Listen up pal..........BIO HAD OVER SIX YEARS TO DEVELOP THIS GAME. AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

ONE MORE TIME. OVER SIX YEARS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

GOT IT?


And what did all of that time/money bring? This average mmo. No matter how you try to rationalize it, you get back to that.

So your wrong. Straight out 100 percent wrong.

Dear OP,

You have fools like this that ruin the game moe than the game itself. People like this are just trolling if you look at their post history. Unfortunatly most on here will not hear what you have to say because all of them run multiply million dollar gaming company and all have made a MMO before. They are all experts on what should or could be in game by now. Less than one percent even know what coding in a game is or what it takes to make a game.

A bit of advice don't bother posting in these forums as they have become full of trolls and haters of the game. Knowledge and sense are limited in these forums now. Yes it is there righ to talk bad about the game they obvious do not play anymore. They have right to talk bad about the game as they will claim. Yes i will be called a fanboi or homer for BW. I love this game and it will be great in time. Good luck

As a gamer you expect new games to be at least as good as older games. This goes for both features and for example graphics. Would you excuse a new game releasing at 1024x768 resolution with "Oh cmon it's only been out a couple of months"? And furthermore as alot of people already pointed out - SWTOR has been in dev for alot of years.

I loved the game when first playing it.

When I first started looking for an extra action bar in preferences and to my amazement realized there was no such option nor could any UI elements be customized - my jaw dropped for the first time in TOR.

When I later payed a first visit to the GTM - my jaw dropped for the second time in TOR.

When I found that the legacy system wasn't actually in the game, I was merly disappointed.

When I even later in the game found myself just standing around on the fleet because I just didn't want to go through the loadingscreen-feast to get to a planet, I put TOR on ice. I think/hope it will be ready for play in about six months or maybe a year. Assuming nothing better comes along before that, I'll happily resub.


Most peoples complaints about TOR not delivering are imo perfectly legit. The gameplay I got out so far was worth the box, but the game is currently not worth my sub.

I love this game. It's actually my favorite MMO to date. I have a few complaints, but nothing that even comes close to making me want to quit. It's great fun and captures (IMO) the spirit of Star Wars well.

That said, I'll say again, I don't think it's fair to tell people they can't compare this game to WoW as it is today. TOR isn't competing with WoW 7 years ago. They're competing with WoW today. WoW is its direct competition, not WoW 7 years ago. If someone doesn't think this game meets what WoW is today, they are not being unfair. They're evaluating two current products and deciding which one's worth their money.

I strongly suspect Bioware would agree with me here. They know full well that this product is intended to compete with current MMOs, not MMOs from a decade ago.

IMO, this game has stepped up and met that challenge. It is (IMO) far more fun than WoW ever was, then or now. But if someone disagrees, I'm not going to tell them they're wrong to compare it to WoW today. WoW today is the game asking them for their money. That's the game Bioware is competing with.

I can't imagine why it's not fair for them to make that comparison.

Also -

If it wasn't for the many people complaining about many different issues with the game, BW wouldn't do anything about them. You wouldnt be getting customizable UI for one. They woudln't put resources on changing anything they think the playerbase is content with.

In their credit, they seem to be making a real effort fixing stuff as fast as they can now. Personally I still have hopes for a good game in all departments...in time.