The sheer number of buttons is just not fun

I think Jug has tons of bloat at 50.

I have 2 bars i use constantly in PvP and a third that has relics healthpacks, stances and buffs on it.

Yeah same here but I don't find them to be redundant. I use Sunder instead of Assault and that's about it, the rest sort of have unique utility/function. The only other one I never use is Vicious Slash which is a single target attack, but that's because it costs the same Rage as the area Sweep Slash ability, which I figure is generally more useful.

FUnny, i never use sweep slash. I use vicious slash to dump rage.

Just a lot of abilities that are.. meh.

The sheer number of buttons the Jedi Guardian at 50 has just destroys the fun I once had while leveling the toon.

Similarly, my Jedi Shadow has a lot of keybinds and you just stare at ur UI buffs for procs. THis is not fun combat at all.

I use a Razer Naga too.

Agreed.

The skill bloat in this game is out of control. It is 100% fail for Guard/Jugg/Marauder/Sent.

My main is a Marauder and I simply don't see it. Every ability I have has a use, some less frequent than others of course (due to cooldown or being of a defensive nature that you want to use at the right time instead of keeping it on cooldown) but they all serve a purpose.

I currently also have just 1 extrabutton on my mouse because the other ones broken and I still manage to keybind everything easily including medpac + adrenal. I don't want to have any ability removed so I can spam the standart lv 1 stike + a ragedumper for 10 seconds before I can do something else, that's just freakin boring. Of course there will always be abilities that you have no use for for some classes, like my Sniper won't use Overload Shot and Corrosive Dart being Marksman spec, so simply put them somewhere on the right or left bar and don't bother or throw them out completely.

There are many different abilities that you can use when facing different situations and I don't want the game to be dumped down because some people are just too lazy or simply too bad to get it right, I srsly don't want my warrior to become a classic WoW Warrior with 3 buttons to spam so everyone can just faceroll like an idiot and still think he actually did something good, it' lame and boring.

while were discussing skills and such

do any of you dps sorcs use tumult? I do and have it hotkeyed ( keep in mind i have many hot keys ).

I love it for style points alone , flying spin kick to finish off an electro-stunned mob.

/joy

Welcome to the modern mmorpg, where every game copys the combat system from wow....

Guild wars 2 is going to change that tho