The sheer number of buttons is just not fun

I rarely use macros. They take full engagement away and I'm resorting to watching not playing.

Just making them bigger and enhancing the UI would go a long way towards making the toon the focal point not the hot bars.

I can sort of. One of my big beefs about ability bloat is when you have 3 or 4 abilities that basically just do damage with different cds or marginally different resource usage. It adds a tiny bit extra sometimes in neck and neck pvp duels and the other 99% of the time 1 will always be optional to use over the other. Gunslinger for example by level 20 or so I have 5 damage only abilities with marginally different resource costs or 'cast times.' Effectively though they all pretty much do 1 thing, instant damage. Its like the old wrath/arcane nuke choice for Moonkin druids. They were both cast time nukes with little to really distinguish one from the other. Adding that using X has an ability to make Y instant also is an unsatisfactory way of seperating abilities.

I do think the mashing of the autoattack replacement is just to make classes feel active between cooldowns.

lol, at least I was consistent. I thought that was one of the better features of that game. No overwhelming skill bars.

Doesn't that sort of make the point moot then? If they're irrelevant, then it doesn't matter whether or not they exist.

Macros would be nice, but honestly when I play my Sentinel, there's only 2 or 3 abilities I don't use ( so, incidentally, they're not hotkeyed and a couple aren't even on my ability bars. ) the rest though?

I use them, and I'd honestly be worse off if BW started crunching them all down, because it'd mean a loss of functionality for no real gain. I mean, the "can only be used on stunned enemies, does not work on players" skills can go in the trash can, but most of what's left? Not really.

You don't need a gaming keyboard or gaming mouse to play this game though... Unless you call a regular 2-8 button mouse a "gaming mouse"


Like a couple people have said before, the larger problem is a UI that doesn't overtly display cooldowns or make it comfortable to watch for procs, not the abilities themselves.

I wouldn't say there are too many abilities for my Juggernaut, although there are definitely a few that I rarely use and a couple that I never use because of my advanced class specialization. I will say that I find the two conditional abilities that are non-functional in PvP to be a bit annoying, but I usually just swap them out on my toolbar with my area snare and CC break for PvP. If those two weak/strong attacks worked in PvP I think my ability set up would be perfect actually.

Playing Guardian and Marauder makes me wonder if I missed my calling to learn piano when I was a child.

I have to agree, there are way too many abilities. You're pretty much required to use some sort of mmo mouse if you want to play this game properly.

I also agree that looking at your buff bar for procs is boring. Hopefully they'll eventually implement something like WoW has were when you proc it lets you know if a giant on screen graphic around your character. Combat is a lot more fun when you're watching your character rather then watching a tiny portion of your screen.

I think Jug has tons of bloat at 50.

I have 2 bars i use constantly in PvP and a third that has relics healthpacks, stances and buffs on it.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

ok seriously you really believe that hype?

Everyone in here complaining about this game will be complaining about GW2 3-4 weeks after release guaranteed...

Agreed.

The skill bloat in this game is out of control. It is 100% fail for Guard/Jugg/Marauder/Sent.