People who ninja for their companions

Generosity is not in question here. It's equality of opportunity given the, I can roll NEED for my companion side...

Some classes have a more diverse set of eq wearing companions. So, why should a Smuggler be able to click NEED 2 or 3x more often than a Trooper simply because he has companions that can wear more types of loot?

Do you realize 90% of your posts are not being constructive at all? If all you're going to say is "it doesn't matter", then you're doing nothing to help anyone understand your side of things. Vecke really seems to be the only one making sense of your side of the argument, which I'm beginning to understand. But, I still don't think it's best for the community.

I actually feel guilty disagreeing with you, because you're obviously coming from a very good place. I agree 100% that speaking up is the proper thing to do. I'll even acknowledge that the onus for speaking up is on the "Need for companions" group simply because it appears (and I could be wrong) that the majority rolls greed for companions.

What I don't agree with is that this is the "fair and respectful method to all." I understand this is what you believe, but what you're saying isn't fair and respectful to all. It actually favors people that think you should roll greed on companions. You're actually saying, "Just suck it up because - in my experience - the majority disagrees with you."

And that's fine, but it isn't a "fair and respectful to all" approach. It's a "majority rules" approach. And I abide by that. I personally never, ever, ever roll Need for a companion in a pug. But the truly fair method is to require everyone to explain their group's loot preference, not just the people on one side of it, because - right now - the game mechanics suggest rolling Need is the appropriate action. Assuming they should just know to "speak up" is unfair to them. The fair option is for everyone to speak up, then there's zero chance that anybody will make that mistake.

Do you see my point here?

Learn to play, and learn to play.

Heroic 2+ quests aren't meant to be done with one player and one companion, they are meant to be done by two+ players and companion(s). You not wanting to play properly isn't a reason to steal gear from someone that does.

The second learn to play is because if you can't solo a heroic 2+ with your companion in level appropriate greens, you should probably try an easier game.

While I'm perfectly fine with that, I admit you make a good point about the fairness of it. Perhaps the best point I've seen yet.

It just didn't really apply to my point that people shouldn't just assume someone supporting Need is being greedy. That's really been my issue from the start. The demonizing of people just because you disagree with them.

I'm not saying you're doing that. I'm too lazy to go check. I'm just saying that was the only point I was making on the post you quoted, then commented on it with a point that had nothing to do with my point. My post wasn't about fairness.

While I agree that you shouldn't be rolling Need on items that are not for your character, I think that the Dev response to that is appropriate. They are adding a button that is meant for companions, and locking the Need button from being pressed when the item is not something that you need for your advanced class. Personally I think that they should also require a setting that declares a primary companion and that option not be available while in any group. Then also lock the for companion button from being used if you are a BH and Mako is your primary companion and a heavy armor or light armor drops. Or maybe you select a companion from a drop down and if it's our primary companion it adds x to your loot roll to make it so that you are more likely to win the roll.

All they really need to do is make it clear that the game wants the companion to be above credits but below PCs. Even if I don't agree with that personally, if the game mechanics show this, it's enough for the community to back it up. I personally don't even see locking it to the primary stat being necessary. Just adding a companion button between the greed and need buttons is enough, because it makes the game mechanic's intent clear. Right now, it suggests the exact opposite, which is where a lot of the problems come from.

If they just add a companion button, the overwhelming majority will press that button instead of need. I don't think the greedy, selfish, "I WANT EVERYTHING" people are anywhere near as common as everyone thinks. Most people are decent enough people, on both sides.

Need button, class restricted.
Need for companion, not class restricted.
Greed.
Pass.
If that were implemented, there would be no arguements cause you have clear restrictions, not that I see the 'needing for a companion' as an issue. If someone does that, I'll just ignore that person and never group with him/her again (as to avoid unnecessary complications) then try and get that particular piece of loot at some other occassion.

IMHO you should be asking the group if you can loot for your companions prior to starting the mission.

Putting in a companion button will do nothing as the people who are the problem will still hit need.

The worst are people who loot for cash but still put need for everything.

If they add that only the class can roll on the item? Nah , then it should get at least a bit better , ifyou want to make sure dont party on groups that got your class , which can be a pain.

People ninja get used to it , i for one only party with my guild or a guild im friendly with.