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People who ninja for their companions

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Setanian
02.24.2012 , 02:47 PM | #701
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Let's analyze, shall we?




"We will probably limit the 'need' button to only people who match the primary class the gear is meant for"

So, they made gear with a primary class in mind. Companions don't have primary classes. Interesting.


"and add a new button in between need and greed for players to choose if they intend the gear for these purposes - this will allow CC users to roll against each other without competing with the guy who wants to sell the gear for credits."

So, he's going to add a new button so people who want companion gear can't win it over PCs, but they will get a priority over greed.

So, the lead systems designer also thinks PC > Companions as well? Again, interesting.


It's weird. If they thought your companion was an extension of your character, why would the change prioritize need rolls so that you couldn't win companion loot over someone else's PC anymore? Yep... interesting.
I ask you a simple straightforward question which required nothing more than a simple Yes or No.

You decided not to answer. Interesting...

Here's why;

If you answered Yes; You prove yourself to be selfish.
If you answered No; You proved yourself to be agreeing with everything I said.
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DizzyStrife
02.24.2012 , 02:48 PM | #702
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
Sorry, this is incredibly wrong too. I have 30 years online, with 9 years end-game everquest raiding. I have never, ever seen a situation where 10 hps or 100 mana would have saved the day.

Sure, I've probably died many many times to the raid boss, because a heal was 2 seconds late etc etc, but really? If you're dying to a boss in non-raid content, where a 2 second delay means a death, you're out of your league.
I am sorry but it is not incredibly wrong. In my person opinion, which means nothing too anyone but me as has been proven many times, if that you are full of it. First of all, the 10 HPs and 100 mana were just numbers I pulled out of he air. Guess what, that heal may not have been 2 seconds behind if your healer had that piece of gear instead of a companion and they weren't just 100 mana short of casting that heal instead of standing there waiting on regen.

You really have no right too tell me I am out of my league just because there have been times in the past where a raid was saved or lost because of a few hps and manas here or there. It's called a close call and they happen all the time no matter how leet you may think you are.
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terminova
02.24.2012 , 02:48 PM | #703
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Let's analyze, shall we?

"We will probably limit the 'need' button to only people who match the primary class the gear is meant for"

So, they made gear with a primary class in mind. Companions don't have primary classes. Interesting.


"and add a new button in between need and greed for players to choose if they intend the gear for these purposes - this will allow CC users to roll against each other without competing with the guy who wants to sell the gear for credits."

So, he's going to add a new button so people who want companion gear can't win it over PCs, but they will get a priority over greed.

So, the lead systems designer also thinks PC > Companions as well? Again, interesting.


It's weird. If they thought your companion was an extension of your character, why would the change prioritize need rolls so that you couldn't win companion loot over someone else's PC anymore? Yep... interesting.
Again, you don't seem to understand how the system currently is.


There are two buttons for actually rolling on loot, need and greed, not three. Anything the devs are working on has no bearing on the current discussion. When they finally implement something the discussion will change, until then anything the devs have said or are working on is irrelevant.

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souloferdrick
02.24.2012 , 02:48 PM | #704
I don't run random FP's to gear other people up.

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Setanian
02.24.2012 , 02:50 PM | #705
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
No, there have been tons of times that I'm grouped with other players of the same class and we all roll need. I win some of those, I lose some too. It doesn't bother me either way because we're both trying to win stuff for out PCs. Heck, I've had groups tons of times with nothing but SIs. We all roll need on WP and RNG decides the rest.

I just don't like rolling against companions. I don't mind going through a whole dungeon and not having a single thing drop for my class. I don't feel like I wasted any time, I just feel unlucky. You could say I'm unlucky as well when a player rolls for their companion and wins my class loot, but I disagree. That's forced bad luck due to a greedy roller.
You already admitted by failing to answer a simple question, that you would throw your toys out of the pram if you lost a need vs need roll.
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Galbatorrix
02.24.2012 , 02:50 PM | #706
Quote: Originally Posted by souloferdrick View Post
I don't run random FP's to gear other people up.
Then why not run them by yourself?

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Vecke
02.24.2012 , 02:50 PM | #707
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Let's analyze, shall we?




"We will probably limit the 'need' button to only people who match the primary class the gear is meant for"

So, they made gear with a primary class in mind. Companions don't have primary classes. Interesting.


"and add a new button in between need and greed for players to choose if they intend the gear for these purposes - this will allow CC users to roll against each other without competing with the guy who wants to sell the gear for credits."

So, he's going to add a new button so people who want companion gear can't win it over PCs, but they will get a priority over greed.

So, the lead systems designer also thinks PC > Companions as well? Again, interesting.


It's weird. If they thought your companion was an extension of your character, why would the change prioritize need rolls so that you couldn't win companion loot over someone else's PC anymore? Yep... interesting.
That post makes one - and only one - statement about their opinion on any aspect of this. Everything else is about what they'll probably do and it says nothing about why they'll do it. I think they're just trying to get a feel for the majority of the players and right now, yes, I suspect they think it's probably that more players want "greed" for companions. I'd say they're right on that.

But the only actual opinion they gave in that entire post was a sentence you left out. The first sentence. They said: "Need vs. greed isn't as simple in our game because of companions, as well as Orange Gear and mod extraction."

I ask you, what do you think they meant by that sentence?
"I know."

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Galbatorrix
02.24.2012 , 02:51 PM | #708
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
You already admitted by failing to answer a simple question, that you would throw your toys out of the pram if you lost a need vs need roll.

No, if you need rolled on class loot, I wouldn't care, even if we were the same class and I lost. You rolling for your companion is no better than rolling for credits in my eyes.

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Setanian
02.24.2012 , 02:52 PM | #709
Quote: Originally Posted by DizzyStrife View Post
I am sorry but it is not incredibly wrong. In my person opinion, which means nothing too anyone but me as has been proven many times, if that you are full of it. First of all, the 10 HPs and 100 mana were just numbers I pulled out of he air. Guess what, that heal may not have been 2 seconds behind if your healer had that piece of gear instead of a companion and they weren't just 100 mana short of casting that heal instead of standing there waiting on regen.

You really have no right too tell me I am out of my league just because there have been times in the past where a raid was saved or lost because of a few hps and manas here or there. It's called a close call and they happen all the time no matter how leet you may think you are.
I wouldn't say 'leet'... That's a such a kiddy term to use.

I'd use a term oh say, hardcore.
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Setanian
02.24.2012 , 02:54 PM | #710
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
No, if you need rolled on class loot, I wouldn't care, even if we were the same class and I lost. You rolling for your companion is no better than rolling for credits in my eyes.
Answer the original question.

Is it too difficult for you?
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