'If' the game goes F2P, What happens?

You can play LotRO without spending a dime and still unlock all the content. How is that pay to win?

He read it somewhere on a forum.

It has to be true.

Just like the TORtanic nonsense.

I like the Sony part

LOL

What a load of crap.

Why do you say it is a load of crap? Cause he is telling the 100% truth, you can buy everything that the store has without ever spending a dime. You gain Turbine points for playing the game, which in turn are used to buy things from the store. yes it would take grinding to do that, but it can be done.

This game is never going to go F2P. I even know this and i hunt fanbois and make fun of them...... a lot.

Rift lost 200k subs after the first month, pretty sure its not F2P yet, and it only started with 1.5 mil sooooooo

Your ignorant. Please don't open your mouth unless you really know something. I've done it myself. I initially paid the montly fee to be premium, then decided to try out this claim that you can play the entire game for free.

And you can.

there are some caveats though. It's an amazing system, but it still boils down to time vs. money. grinding out all the quests (even low level ones), unlocking all your virtues (more grinding), etc.

you get turbine points every time you finish a quest, unlock a virtue, complete a deed (tons of deed in the game...7-10 per zone), you get points. you use points to do various things, from unlocking new zones to buying crafting materials when you don't want to farm for them.

Thing is...if you simply go out and do everything in the game...you get points !! or you can buy points in the store. or you can pay 15$ a month and get open access to the game, and 500 points a month to spend on whatever.

there is absolutely nothing in LotRO that you can't get by just playing the entire game. There are even websites that map it out for you. It's not hard to find that information.

and on the note of F2P...its an old old superstition that only dying games go f2p (actually transaction based really, but like i said...you can stil get it all for free if you work hard enough.) LotRO actually went transaction based when they saw how profitiable it was with DDO...they had seen no drop in their customer base prior to that, it wasn't an emergency reaction (though it was for DDO). but even with DDO, it completely revitalized the game.

the secret behind PtP/MicTrans/whatever you want to call it isn't that it robs it's playerbase and makes them pay more...it's that it attracts more people...some who will play free, and some who will pay to play. So the average per player goes down, but the available player base increases exponentially, giving them a greater profit overall.

I was against PtP up until i saw LotRO's model. Now, I really don't like some of the "marketing changes" they made to the game...like adding bigger then necessary buttons to access the store. or having huge "hey, if you pay points you can unlock this quest!"icon above NPC's heads. But the system is hard to beat. I could care less if It goes PtP as long as I can still do the 15 a month option for full access (like LotRO did). It really is the best of both worlds.

But...if they stick with the monthly fee option I wouldn't argue either. Im paying 15 a month for this game because I enjoy it, and thats good enough for me

http://lotro.mmorsel.com/2011/01/rea...lay-dream.html

Here's a dude who's unlocked all the LOTRO content and almost all the features and only spent $10.

That's pretty hardcore, and I wouldn't recommend doing that, but watching sales and spending wisely you can get everything out of LOTRO for $60 or so without having to grind. And no it's not "pay to win" as you can't buy top-end items or anything, it's mostly content or things like character slots.

It's still way more content for way less money. If you're subbed to SWTOR from release through March you've basically given BW/EA $100 to beta test their game.

You're going to essentially do the longest and worst grind of your life to get 800 TP for one expansion?

Then turn around and get 1400 TP or w.e Isengard costs nowadays again?


I played a Warden to 44 on the free content, but not really since I was a VIP for a month or two and I bought Mines of Moria Expansion.

From 1-44ish I earned maybe 200-300 TP from grinding Deeds and what not. While it is feasible to do it MAYBE and get all the content ( I won't presume to know the amount of TP earned through free content)

It is not possible to get all of LOTROs content for FREE unless you're a jobless, basement dwelling, life sucking mammas boy. (IF it is even possible)