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The harsh tale of my last 24 hours of playing SWTOR

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The harsh tale of my last 24 hours of playing SWTOR

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Atanasov
02.21.2012 , 02:44 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by kristoffbrujah View Post
This will be a coolstorybro tale of woe, bugs, and exploits from someone who has defended this game repeatedly and received abuse for doing so.

Yesterday I wanted to play my favorite current addiction SWTOR. Queue for PVP, and when I try to enter, I'm kicked out of the game to the character selection screen.

Then my friend comes on and wants to run Foundry HM. So I think, sure, why not? PVP isn't working. Everything is going smooth in Foundry, even the HK fight until a point where HK gets a buff he's not supposed to and one shots our party. Try again, same. Try again, same. We die 5 times hoping this will stop happening.

Demoralizied, our group disbands. My friend and I are getting frustrated, we need a confidence booster. So we PUG a D7 HM group. Get to the clone boss and infinite clones start spawning. Three bug-ridden deaths later we call it a night.

This morning I'm ready to wash the fail away. PUG a group for normal mode False Emperor. The tank unfortunately loses his ability to move in the middle of some big pulls. Twice. We manage because this is normal mode, thank God it wasn't HM or we'd never have finished. He had to relog twice btw and me once for lag issues.

I come back from work tonight and get slammed over and over again by the same premade guild. They predictably wipe the floor with our group who have no premades. This goes on for 1.5 hours, with my faction deciding to camp one objective for medals with no enemy in sight. Daydreaming of what cross-server PVP would be like, I wander to Ilum for dailies and notice a box that says "NO OBJECT", the same box I've been seeing for weeks. 30 minutes later the dailies have bored me and I queue for PVP again. Again, the same guild. But we take a 1-0 lead in Huttball, and just as I feel that finally FINALLY I could be on the winning end of a warzone against this guild, the game freezes and crashes robbing me of 4 commendations and a victory.

I don't often throw controllers but my headset is on the ground right now, thankfully it's light and I didn't toss it very hard. It was just the culmination of 2 straight days in SWTOR of buggy, brutal failure.

Look, I've been a loyal Bioware fan ever since I bought that gothic, glossy Baldur's Gate box with those glorious 5 CD's over 10 years ago. The spiral bound manual full of funny asides and medieval-feeling script is something I will never forget. We've had our ups and downs but almost always ups. You're my favorite developer by a mile.

BUT you have got to get a handle on the quality control in this game. If this had been any other developer, I would not be giving them the benefit of the doubt. I always have time for Bioware, though. Your name and reputation are the only things keeping my hope in this game alive. Please please please do something about these issues that have (as I was later informed) been around for months.


Signed,

Bioware fanatic since 1999


For the past 1 1/2 month ive been dealing with issues in False Emperor specifically and its frustrating as hell so I can sympathize. Ive put in a ticket every time as well, most of them get closed with no response or, some rhetoric from the protocol droid.

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Goretzu
02.21.2012 , 04:23 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by PeacefulViolence View Post
First off, this isn't the Bioware that made KOTOR or Jade Empire or Mass Effect, this is some "new" division that was put together when they decided they were going to make this game, these guys are not Bioware, at least not in my eyes, all i see is Mythic + EA when i see this game, the ONLY thing that reminds me of Bioware in this game are the dialogue options.

My advice, let this game develop for a few months then come back and see if you like it, if not, look for something else to play and forget all about this game.


Bioware fan since 1996.



For all their faults Mythic made a better go with release PvP and RvR.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Tiaa
02.21.2012 , 04:29 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by kristoffbrujah View Post
This will be a coolstorybro tale of woe, bugs, and exploits from someone who has defended this game repeatedly and received abuse for doing so.

Yesterday I wanted to play my favorite current addiction SWTOR. Queue for PVP, and when I try to enter, I'm kicked out of the game to the character selection screen.

Then my friend comes on and wants to run Foundry HM. So I think, sure, why not? PVP isn't working. Everything is going smooth in Foundry, even the HK fight until a point where HK gets a buff he's not supposed to and one shots our party. Try again, same. Try again, same. We die 5 times hoping this will stop happening.

Demoralizied, our group disbands. My friend and I are getting frustrated, we need a confidence booster. So we PUG a D7 HM group. Get to the clone boss and infinite clones start spawning. Three bug-ridden deaths later we call it a night.

This morning I'm ready to wash the fail away. PUG a group for normal mode False Emperor. The tank unfortunately loses his ability to move in the middle of some big pulls. Twice. We manage because this is normal mode, thank God it wasn't HM or we'd never have finished. He had to relog twice btw and me once for lag issues.

I come back from work tonight and get slammed over and over again by the same premade guild. They predictably wipe the floor with our group who have no premades. This goes on for 1.5 hours, with my faction deciding to camp one objective for medals with no enemy in sight. Daydreaming of what cross-server PVP would be like, I wander to Ilum for dailies and notice a box that says "NO OBJECT", the same box I've been seeing for weeks. 30 minutes later the dailies have bored me and I queue for PVP again. Again, the same guild. But we take a 1-0 lead in Huttball, and just as I feel that finally FINALLY I could be on the winning end of a warzone against this guild, the game freezes and crashes robbing me of 4 commendations and a victory.

I don't often throw controllers but my headset is on the ground right now, thankfully it's light and I didn't toss it very hard. It was just the culmination of 2 straight days in SWTOR of buggy, brutal failure.

Look, I've been a loyal Bioware fan ever since I bought that gothic, glossy Baldur's Gate box with those glorious 5 CD's over 10 years ago. The spiral bound manual full of funny asides and medieval-feeling script is something I will never forget. We've had our ups and downs but almost always ups. You're my favorite developer by a mile.

BUT you have got to get a handle on the quality control in this game. If this had been any other developer, I would not be giving them the benefit of the doubt. I always have time for Bioware, though. Your name and reputation are the only things keeping my hope in this game alive. Please please please do something about these issues that have (as I was later informed) been around for months.


Signed,

Bioware fanatic since 1999
All your post tells me is that the game is working as intended.

Just ask the fanboys. Which I am.

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BoushhDC
02.21.2012 , 04:41 AM | #24
Actually, I think it's good to keep posting experiences like this and reporting bugs. They do seem to address them at an ever increasing rate which I find heartening. I also sympathize with your experience. I guess I've beta'd enough games and played enough others from launch that I sort of get into a rhythm and report everything diligently, and then monitor the response to see the reaction of the company involved. By comparison: play a game based overseas and see how responsive they are to your concerns. Even domestically, TBH, for a newly launched game, they're right up there with only one other game that I've experienced... and that game didn't have nearly the subs, to be fair.

What I can say for now is, keep reporting the issues because that helps them help us. There is a balance between what they can physically do in a given amount of time (manpower considerations) and how stridently we can express the importance or gravity of an issue to gameplay. From there, they have to prioritize.
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved. --Sun Tzu

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AJediKnight
02.21.2012 , 04:52 AM | #25
OP, the only thing keeping me playing this boring, bug-ridden mess is the IP. I deeply love Star Wars, and occasionally this game feels a lot like a galaxy far, far away. Unfortunately, those moments are less frequent than I'd like, but they pop up once in a while.

I have absolutely no faith in Bioware as a company. While you look at a corporate track record paved with gold bricks, all I see are polished turds left and right, the latest being Dragonage II. Even KotOR was a bug-ridden disaster, although it was saved by its atmosphere and IP (hmm, sounds familiar).

Blizzard's MMO may be a soulless monstrosity, but with each passing day I find myself appreciating its fluid seamlessness more. As evil and terrible as WoW is, at least Blizzard knows how to pump out polished content -- they have this crap down to a science. Bioware doesn't and, what's worse is, I don't sense any urgency from them to get things fixed. Customer service is a joke, the upcoming content (aside from the new WZ) is snore city, and I just don't feel like these people want to retain my business.

I resubbed for another month a couple of days ago, but this is probably it for me. Unlike a lot of the Bioclowns here, I don't play MMOs for story; I play them to have a gaming experience with other people. I don't need to be spoonfed voice acted dialogue to feel immersion -- in fact, I actually appreciate the lack of this sort of 'immersion' elsewhere because it allows me to spin my own tales. In TOR, we're all just clones of 8 heroes, doing the same exact things for the same exact levels as everyone else.

Yawn.
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Greylox
02.21.2012 , 04:52 AM | #26
Crashing out of WZ's to log in screen and losing all xp and medals is so frustrating I have to have a break after. Sort it out bioware!

As far as pve is concerned, I don't do it so I wouldn't have noticed bugs.
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Leiralei
02.21.2012 , 05:57 AM | #27
Hard to have faith in a game developer that puts getting the number of elevators ingame into the Book of World Records above making mirror classes actually balanced.

Long-time Bioware fan here too. Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, KOTOR 1 and 2. Played a bit of a friend's Dragon Age. Now a disappointed Bioware fan suspecting industrial sabotage from EA. At least, I hope so rather than believe Bioware would do this on purpose.
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Ansultares
02.21.2012 , 06:06 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Stabbitha View Post
I just take my money elsewhere and check back every now and again to see if they've lifted their game.
The only problem with checking back in is that eventually the population distills down to purely fanboys, so even if the game's down to one server they're still telling you that it's awesome.

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seallone
02.21.2012 , 06:12 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Tservo View Post
Wow, almost every gamebreaking issue happened to you in that short of a time frame. Brutal.

Calling renegadeimp here to tell you everything is ok.
LOL,

Where is she/he This person need's a Hug. Can i have one has well.

How come i can post, Strange
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Malpracticex
02.21.2012 , 06:22 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by kristoffbrujah View Post
This will be a coolstorybro tale of woe, bugs, and exploits from someone who has defended this game repeatedly and received abuse for doing so.

Yesterday I wanted to play my favorite current addiction SWTOR. Queue for PVP, and when I try to enter, I'm kicked out of the game to the character selection screen.

Then my friend comes on and wants to run Foundry HM. So I think, sure, why not? PVP isn't working. Everything is going smooth in Foundry, even the HK fight until a point where HK gets a buff he's not supposed to and one shots our party. Try again, same. Try again, same. We die 5 times hoping this will stop happening.

Demoralizied, our group disbands. My friend and I are getting frustrated, we need a confidence booster. So we PUG a D7 HM group. Get to the clone boss and infinite clones start spawning. Three bug-ridden deaths later we call it a night.

This morning I'm ready to wash the fail away. PUG a group for normal mode False Emperor. The tank unfortunately loses his ability to move in the middle of some big pulls. Twice. We manage because this is normal mode, thank God it wasn't HM or we'd never have finished. He had to relog twice btw and me once for lag issues.

I come back from work tonight and get slammed over and over again by the same premade guild. They predictably wipe the floor with our group who have no premades. This goes on for 1.5 hours, with my faction deciding to camp one objective for medals with no enemy in sight. Daydreaming of what cross-server PVP would be like, I wander to Ilum for dailies and notice a box that says "NO OBJECT", the same box I've been seeing for weeks. 30 minutes later the dailies have bored me and I queue for PVP again. Again, the same guild. But we take a 1-0 lead in Huttball, and just as I feel that finally FINALLY I could be on the winning end of a warzone against this guild, the game freezes and crashes robbing me of 4 commendations and a victory.

I don't often throw controllers but my headset is on the ground right now, thankfully it's light and I didn't toss it very hard. It was just the culmination of 2 straight days in SWTOR of buggy, brutal failure.

Look, I've been a loyal Bioware fan ever since I bought that gothic, glossy Baldur's Gate box with those glorious 5 CD's over 10 years ago. The spiral bound manual full of funny asides and medieval-feeling script is something I will never forget. We've had our ups and downs but almost always ups. You're my favorite developer by a mile.

BUT you have got to get a handle on the quality control in this game. If this had been any other developer, I would not be giving them the benefit of the doubt. I always have time for Bioware, though. Your name and reputation are the only things keeping my hope in this game alive. Please please please do something about these issues that have (as I was later informed) been around for months.


Signed,

Bioware fanatic since 1999

I think your taking the game too seriously, after all it is just a game. Problems in game are trivial in comparison to RL. This is not a flame