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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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DarthKhaos
03.15.2012 , 04:41 PM | #651
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthGygax View Post
I for one want to see this implemented, What would you rather do, Get into a Flashpoint quickly or sit around the fleet for hours & hours asking if anyone wants to do a specific Flashpoint, I'd rather be questing & advancing my toon than just sitting around reading endless fleet chat hoping in vain that you'll see someone putting together a group for the Flashpoint your looking for.
You guys say we sing one song but I keep seeing this mantra when we have clearly shown in words and picture why this does not have to be the case. I do not like the LFG spam in General and you can avoid that and still not have a cross server system.
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ferroz
03.15.2012 , 05:02 PM | #652
Quote: Originally Posted by dondiwayne View Post
I thought about this but never knew how to really express it. Probably the only people who have problems finding groups are DEEPEESSSSS, as Tank or Healer you basically instantly find a group.
No, tanks are often waiting around for healers.

in rift I queued up single server on an alt cleric, who was spec'd so that I could queue as tank, heals, support and dps...multiple days of 6+ hours in the queue with no groups.

in a cross server system, that simply wouldn't happen.

In tor, I'm a tank on my main (and my primary alt) and I'm still highly in favor of cross server lfg. I'm not the only one having problems finding groups: I've repeatedly seen groups looking for a healer for more than an hour in fleet; I've seen more than one instance of a group spamming for 2-3 hours for a healer and not finding one (from the time I logged on until I logged off for the night)

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With LFG Tools you get matched with random people and it often takes a +-30% more time to complete a dungeon because of undergeared underskilled people.
Eh, my experience is that most lfd groups were just fine running though just as fast as I could pull in WoW... the undergeared/underskilled people aren't common enough to really make a serious dent in the time it takes me to run.

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As someone already stated, the only real argument the Pro-X-Server-LFGers have is that they want to experience every content.
No, there's also
  • want to form groups quickly and minimize the time spent sitting around waiting for groups.
  • want the ability to not be held hostage by bad people playing needed classes; if you kick your healer on my server, have fun waiting another hour to replace him.
  • want the ability to play with people on other servers, add cross server friends, even cross server guildinvites.
  • in favor of keeping the low level flashpoints utilized, especially for new players to the game who are otherwise going to totally miss out on them.
  • etc

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Any player who plays in a proper and social manner shouldnt have problems finding a group.
No, that's just blatantly untrue.

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If you ignore the other players and solo your way trough the game, you cant expect other people to be ready when you want to do some content with you.
There's noone for me to ignore; I haven't seen more than 2 or 3 people total on my alt (who mid 30s) since corsucant.

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It is so simple, play, make friends, form groups, or are you such jerks noone wants to socialize with you?
I'm in favor of cross server lfg because I'd like more people to socialize with.

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ferroz
03.15.2012 , 05:05 PM | #653
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
You guys say we sing one song but I keep seeing this mantra when we have clearly shown in words and picture why this does not have to be the case. I do not like the LFG spam in General and you can avoid that and still not have a cross server system.
Sure, I could stop logging into the game; then I wouldn't need to spam lfg in general... but that's not a better solution than a cross server lfg tool.

the truth is: the alternate solutions that keep being thrown about are nearly worthless; spamming is simply a much faster way to find groups.

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ferroz
03.15.2012 , 05:06 PM | #654
Quote: Originally Posted by ElevenX View Post
Players against making it easier to find groups always boggle my mind.
I gues they figure that since the group content itself is so easy, they should want to make finding groups difficult?

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Bullsith
03.15.2012 , 05:14 PM | #655
Well I guess those people on low populated servers can go **** themselves. I mean we don't want to ruin the community by introducing a tool that allows players to group faster so they can do dungoens.

Nah, they must spam the general channel in their faction's Fleet and if, by chance they get a group they will be forced to talk to their groupmates for at least 30 minutes before starting the dungeon, if not they will be kicked for a low social level.


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Are you that stupid, honestly?
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Esproc
03.15.2012 , 05:14 PM | #656
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
Sure, I could stop logging into the game; then I wouldn't need to spam lfg in general... but that's not a better solution than a cross server lfg tool.

the truth is: the alternate solutions that keep being thrown about are nearly worthless; spamming is simply a much faster way to find groups.
Try to use the LFG tool, unwieldy that it is, and get more people to use the tool that was meant to be used for...LFG.
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DarthKhaos
03.15.2012 , 06:41 PM | #657
Quote: Originally Posted by Bullsith View Post
Well I guess those people on low populated servers can go **** themselves. I mean we don't want to ruin the community by introducing a tool that allows players to group faster so they can do dungoens.

Nah, they must spam the general channel in their faction's Fleet and if, by chance they get a group they will be forced to talk to their groupmates for at least 30 minutes before starting the dungeon, if not they will be kicked for a low social level.


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Are you that stupid, honestly?
And the one song pony strikes again.
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ferroz
03.16.2012 , 02:33 PM | #658
Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
Try to use the LFG tool, unwieldy that it is, and get more people to use the tool that was meant to be used for...LFG.
No thanks, it's faster to spam general, and will be even if more people use the tool. Just like it was in wow, pre lfd. Just like it was in rift before cross server lfg tool (even after they added single server matchmaking tool). Just like it was back in EQ. etc.

It doesn't really make any sense for me to waste time trying to get people to use a tool that's not as effective as spamming in fleet.

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CJAShadow
03.17.2012 , 05:03 PM | #659
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
No thanks, it's faster to spam general, and will be even if more people use the tool. Just like it was in wow, pre lfd. Just like it was in rift before cross server lfg tool (even after they added single server matchmaking tool). Just like it was back in EQ. etc.

It doesn't really make any sense for me to waste time trying to get people to use a tool that's not as effective as spamming in fleet.
I don't believe that's true. The opposite has been my experience with using the LFG tool.

My prime example would be when I was looking for people to do the Mandolorian Raiders FP. We had 3 people and were looking for one more at the Republic Fleet. After spamming General Chat with no luck for a couple minutes, I just looked on the LFG tool to see if there was anyone on another planet/area that is around our level and is LFG.

Took me 10 seconds to Whisper him, ask if he wants to do the FP and that we needed 1 more dps.

He said yes and had a very good group (underleveled, but that was a part of the fun).

The LFG tool usefullness is directly proportional to how many people use it. The more that use it even when they are questing on other planets, the better it is.

The main problem is most people don't know about it, and those that do learn about it see that no one else is using it. A more robust one (doesn't need to teleport you... travel in this game is so quick) would definitely help, but the masses need to be educated.
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Unpleasant
03.17.2012 , 05:14 PM | #660
Why not scrap the idea of cross-server LFG altogether, and get the server population up to where we can ever form groups on a single server in the first place. Easy solution to a ton of problems.