Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

And you first read all comments before you post. And again ..
no1 give real advice.. just L2P .. that can say only one, who play class we talkin about.

Its same as Operatives.. they couldnt admit that their insta kill in stun lock was OP ..
Instead they said L2P and bring team ... rofl. .same as you ..

Guess what happens when a sorcerer is focused? Dead! We're not "tanky" lol. You can't tell me a class that dies in an instant when focused is OP. You act like killing a sorc is a challenge lol.

Every other class dies just as fast if you've got 3-5 people attacking them, aside from tanks, or a Marauder using Undying Rage

Kiting in this game is already bad, all melee have 15% more movement speed than casters, AND we don't keep our 180 vision while we strafe. Basically we have to sit on ramps because when melee get on us if we don't knock them off we're in trouble, instead of just being able to kite. The 180 vision is the biggest thing, we cannot move away from you and still do damage or slow you, unlike wow. sorcerer vs melee is painful for that reason. The whole having to stop turn and cast wouldn't be such a big deal if all melee didn't have the bonus movement speed ontop of the gap closers and slows they already have.

Most melee classes can get +15%, but, for the most part they're in PvE specs that are bad in PvP.

Our damage is also nothing to complain about. the damage of force lightning, chain lightning, shock, and crushing darkness are all reduced by armor even though we cannot benefit from accuracy or even armor penn debuffs. This is why sorcs like to kill other sorcs lol, we do more damage to each other. We also know what our class is capable of when people let us freecast, and just how squishy we really are. Our burst is CL (only usable with a wrath proc from FL) and DF (30 second CD). Other than those 2 abilities we just have high sustained damage, but again...not when you focus us.

Seen tons of games where Sorc/Sage has done 300-500k damage, the damage is coming from somewhere.

Either way 31 point builds are terrible. Full lightning is just not an option in pvp. There'ss 0 mobility plus the burst is terrible anyway, thundering blast hits like wet paper. Full madness has no burst. We HAVE to use hybrid or we are useless in pvp (and PVE actually), end of story.

I agree, but the healing and hybrid specs are powerful. The hybrid spec is TOO powerful. Every class has a few worthless trees/specs.

Complain all you want but honestly we are only "op" if your team lets us freecast. At the end of the day mmos are not pvp games anyway, fix pve first please.

The outcry for nerf is stronger for sorc/sage than the early days when scoundrel/operative were nerfed. Lets take a look at the aftermath though which shows operatives being completely gimped and useless now. They are the least played class. Even in pve serious raiders running hard/nightmare modes especially will not take an operative because they actually gimp the group.

Lets not make the same mistake twice and give in to the outcry for nerfing another class and making them useless. The destruction of the operative/scoundrel class post nerf should give us all pause before really asking another class to be nerfed into oblivion.