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Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

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Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

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Orangerascal
02.23.2012 , 04:24 AM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by Keldaur View Post
Good groups, tend to have teammates. And those teammates help each other making harder for melees to DPS.

I mean, you know i am not speaking about 1vs1 because that's a retarded discussion, right ?
Fallacy #4: I will count all my opponents cc as belonging to the sorc

I don't even have to go into this one

Quote: Originally Posted by Keldaur View Post
I know why you did it, but baddies will take your words as gospell, so i had to clarify ;P, oh about the group heals... it's a bit more than 4% of health everytime you use, big deal eh ?
Our sentinel does about 120k healing every fight. That's enough to heal 7 people's lives worth of deficit and our healers notices a difference. It may not be much, but it's there.

Also I posted those abilities to prove the fallacy in the ops most, not to shout 'nerf sentinels'. Every calling (Even the scoundrel that I play) has a long list of good utilities comparable to the sorc. Listing the sorcs abilities out of context is just bad science.

Lastly, my guild and I, are under the impression that the sentinels will get nerfed next, but again that's just opinion. Everyone's opinions can vary. We're all just waiting for rated warfronts to see what comps are going to dominate, but we have a feeling sentinel heavy teams will dominate because of their awesome self and group utility.

Most people like the ops look at classes in an individual scenario. Good pvp teams and Bioware looks at them in their group role. So like I said, good luck with the sorc witch-hunt, we'll see what happens to the comps in rated warfronts
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Aidank
02.23.2012 , 04:37 AM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by Rallic View Post
Lol this dam post keeps popping its ugly misinformed head up.

Sorcs are not op with cc or any other thing in or out of groups. Sorcs are the support cc class they are ment to have more cc then you.

What is op or broke is the resolve crap.
It needs fixed and all this op blah boa qq qq qq is over.

It should be a 80% stun immunity after the first stun for at least 5 seconds and 100% after the 2nd stun if within 20 seconds of the first.
No more op cc chain stunning from ever single stun/Mez/root spamming sob.

Each class has a stun, root or mez and in the wz every one spams it , brakes some ones and stuns mez or roots not bothering with timing.

Why should they as they know its going to stick 90% of the time.
Do that and no one has op cc . More then one sorc in a group as a hybrid cc spec is pointless , your happy the sorcs in your life are happy .

It's that easy, stop QQing nerf and force them to fix are game.

The longer you qq nerf the longer its going to take to get this game going right
If they're meant to be a support CC class then they shouldn't have the best AoE damage in the game, some of the best sustained single target damage in the game, some of the best survivability in the game, the best mobility in the game, and the best non-healer spec heals in the game.


Sounds to me like they're a really solid all around class, that gives up nothing for god-like CC.
Quote: Originally Posted by HileyQuiggley View Post
Nerf Grav Round are you serious? What else could we possibly do after that?

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Senefera
02.23.2012 , 04:52 AM | #153
I agree completely with OP.
Sorc/Sage doesn't need a nerf, but some of the utility needs to be moved further up the trees.
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GrandMike
02.23.2012 , 05:21 AM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank View Post
If they're meant to be a support CC class then they shouldn't have the best AoE damage in the game, some of the best sustained single target damage in the game, some of the best survivability in the game, the best mobility in the game, and the best non-healer spec heals in the game.


Sounds to me like they're a really solid all around class, that gives up nothing for god-like CC.
QQQQQQQQQ

They dont have best of anything. Not even nearly.

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Aidank
02.23.2012 , 05:25 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
QQQQQQQQQ

They dont have best of anything. Not even nearly.
Well thank you for your insightful post disproving me, but just for kicks, could you explain what I said that was wrong?

Do we not have the best AoE damage in the game?
Do we not have very strong single target damage?
Are we not the most mobile class in the game?
Do we not have the highest healing for any non-healing spec?


We've already posted the numbers on survivability, we are one of the most survivable classes in the game.
Quote: Originally Posted by HileyQuiggley View Post
Nerf Grav Round are you serious? What else could we possibly do after that?

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GrandMike
02.23.2012 , 05:27 AM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank View Post
Well thank you for your insightful post disproving me, but just for kicks, could you explain what I said that was wrong?

Do we not have the best AoE damage in the game?
Do we not have very strong single target damage?
Are we not the most mobile class in the game?
Do we not have the highest healing for any non-healing spec?


We've already posted the numbers on survivability, we are one of the most survivable classes in the game.
No we dnt have best aoe in the game
No we dont have best single target damage
No we are not most mobile class in the game
No we dont have best best non-heal spec ingame
No we are not most survivable class ingame
No we dont have best CC skill ingame
...

there

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Aidank
02.23.2012 , 05:28 AM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMike View Post
No we dnt have best aoe in the game
No we dont have best single target damage
No we are not most mobile class in the game
No we dont have best best non-heal spec ingame
No we are not most survivable class ingame
No we dont have best CC skill ingame
...

there
oh okay then.


Tum, time to delete this thread, you're clearly wrong and mike has proved it.
Quote: Originally Posted by HileyQuiggley View Post
Nerf Grav Round are you serious? What else could we possibly do after that?

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Fairell
02.23.2012 , 05:29 AM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank View Post
Well thank you for your insightful post disproving me, but just for kicks, could you explain what I said that was wrong?

Do we not have the best AoE damage in the game?
Do we not have very strong single target damage?
Are we not the most mobile class in the game?
Do we not have the highest healing for any non-healing spec?


We've already posted the numbers on survivability, we are one of the most survivable classes in the game.
you have best AOE. its a fact. sorcs utility aside, my problem with them is they are the only class that can regen resources while doing a lot of dmg.

dot, gtae, channel channel channel, instant aoe with 20% more dmg, dot, gtae bla bla..oh look, i still have 100% force.
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Tqyy
02.23.2012 , 05:29 AM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by Senefera View Post
I agree completely with OP.
Sorc/Sage doesn't need a nerf, but some of the utility needs to be moved further up the trees.
Who cares? Op is obvious a noob, trying desperatly to keep this b.... tread alive. While he plays and protect the most op class ingame. Marader/Sent!!!!!!!!
Just for the record: Peeps that spekks Hybrid and plays sorc is just following the mainstream They all think its soooo OP, so f...... good!!!!!
Well Sorcs with just a bit clue and spekks Balance is the ones to fear
But ffs keep on posting in your insane tread and im lookin forward to u guys meet some of the pro Sorcs out there, and the QQ can really begin!!!!!!!
Ps, Hybrid is for noobs!!! Only nabs is playing it!!! I thought it was obvious?

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GrandMike
02.23.2012 , 05:35 AM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by Fairell View Post
you have best AOE.
No we dont. We have low damage semi-spammable AoE

Quote: Originally Posted by Fairell View Post
dot, gtae, channel channel channel, instant aoe with 20% more dmg, dot, gtae bla bla..oh look, i still have 100% force.
Yah playing against terribads looks exactly like this

Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank View Post
oh okay then.


Tum, time to delete this thread, you're clearly wrong and mike has proved it.
If you havent figured it out by now with countless people debunking you post after post after post....

OP is a joke posted by someone who plays a class that wipes the class he insist on nerfing. I treat it as such and anyone in their right mind do