Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

HM-Nightmare gear


Daeada's Avatar


Daeada
02.20.2012 , 04:05 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Andyonme View Post
I disagree, there should be areas of the game which are very hard to reach / complete / achieve. Nmm needs to be harder and it should have its own tier of gear.

This game might aswell be called Star Wars the old communist republic.
Being harder to reach/complete/achieve has nothing at all to do with gear, though. Sure, make Nightmare harder than it currently is, but why does it need to have better drops? An extra tier of gear just makes everything (including Nightmare mode itself) easier than if it doesn't reward an extra tier of gear.
.

themacr's Avatar


themacr
02.20.2012 , 04:12 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Daeada View Post
Being harder to reach/complete/achieve has nothing at all to do with gear, though. Sure, make Nightmare harder than it currently is, but why does it need to have better drops? An extra tier of gear just makes everything (including Nightmare mode itself) easier than if it doesn't reward an extra tier of gear.
Indeed, its someting for bragging rights. Titles/Mounts and other "vanity stuff" is great to get from it. It does not need it's own tier though. Perhaps some cool orange items to you can look like SOA when you collect them all :P
Medicinara• Member •
Aeon Knights
• Recruitment Thread •
Multi Faction • Raiding • Lore • RP • PVP • EU • Mature •

Andyonme's Avatar


Andyonme
02.20.2012 , 04:14 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Daeada View Post
Being harder to reach/complete/achieve has nothing at all to do with gear, though. Sure, make Nightmare harder than it currently is, but why does it need to have better drops? An extra tier of gear just makes everything (including Nightmare mode itself) easier than if it doesn't reward an extra tier of gear.
Think about it with super cars...Most people like and would get a ferrari if they could afford one. Imagine everyone driving around in a ferrari, it would just be a normal car. Excatly the same is happening with gear. Rakata gear is too easy to get, absolutely no challenge in acquiring it. There is no gear you really want to get, because you know within a very short time period you will be full Rakata.

Now for me when there is no challenge in a game / nothing to aim for, it gets very boring.

-Arcane-'s Avatar


-Arcane-
02.20.2012 , 04:21 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by kufa View Post
"But it's fun."
"They will patch it, you just have to wait."
"But the game is still new!"

Pick one generic excuse. This is just terrible game design or pure laziness.
This sums it up nicely.
Arcane Nerdherder - GM of Glory Guild on Niman
PvE Completion 10/10 Nightmare 16man - Videos


Gone to Play Diablo III, SWTOR failed.

YellowOcifer's Avatar


YellowOcifer
02.20.2012 , 04:22 AM | #15
There does need to be something special for doing NM. Bragging rights don't mean anything without proof. A title, a car, etc. Gear is nice too.

Sky_walkerPL's Avatar


Sky_walkerPL
02.20.2012 , 04:31 AM | #16
But there is such thing already. You can get more gear in a quicker way, you can get special speeders, you can get a title.
Don't be too picky people.
This game has dozens of issues and lack of more-than-rakata-gear to boost ego after NMM isn't one of them.
Sky Legacy, Hydian Way
[COLOR="PaleTurquoise"]Proudly contributed to: Color crystals • RE guide • DH DB. Created: Imp uniforms list.

Daeada's Avatar


Daeada
02.20.2012 , 04:41 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Andyonme View Post
Think about it with super cars...Most people like and would get a ferrari if they could afford one. Imagine everyone driving around in a ferrari, it would just be a normal car. Excatly the same is happening with gear. Rakata gear is too easy to get, absolutely no challenge in acquiring it. There is no gear you really want to get, because you know within a very short time period you will be full Rakata.

Now for me when there is no challenge in a game / nothing to aim for, it gets very boring.
You picked the worst example possible, given the fact that Nightmare mode has an exclusive mount... which is just like a car.

Like I said, beef up Nightmare modes, give them exclusive rewards. But what is the justification in making said exclusive rewards be gear? It just makes the disparity in gear between content be even more bloated than it already needs to be.

Think about it this way:

In life, you go to school to get into a good college, which you do in order to go to work and buy the things that make you happy.

In an MMO, you level to get to 50, and then do dailies to be ready for hardmodes. You then do those hard modes to gear up for Nightmare, which drops those things that make you happy.

There is no point in having exclusive gear in nightmare because there's no tier above it that you need to gear up for. As long as there is some reward in Nightmare mode that can not be gotten anywhere else (which there are, 2 easily visible things) then it has it's purpose. People push for top tier raiding for bragging rights and epeen, and exclusive mounts and titles can be just that.

Adding in an extra tier of gear just for the sake of having even more exclusive stuff for top tier raiders just ends in stat bloat, and the need for greater stat disparity between content levels even faster.
.

Andyonme's Avatar


Andyonme
02.20.2012 , 04:47 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Daeada View Post
You picked the worst example possible, given the fact that Nightmare mode has an exclusive mount... which is just like a car.
Wow a mount, after all that a mount!!!....

Daeada's Avatar


Daeada
02.20.2012 , 05:05 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Andyonme View Post
Wow a mount, after all that a mount!!!....
Says the guy who claims people work their butts off IRL for Ferarris....

I'll even go one better than mounts and titles... I'm fine with Nightmare mode dropping gear, as long as it's unique graphic moddables, and doesn't have any stat benefit over Rakata tier.

There you go, special Nightmare mode gear, without causing stat bloat.
.

Wolfmilf's Avatar


Wolfmilf
02.20.2012 , 05:49 AM | #20
if its going to be tht rakata is too easy to get then they should take rakata out of hm and leave it in only nmm