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Sorcerers, seriously what the hell?

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Sorcerers, seriously what the hell?

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Proculus
02.23.2012 , 08:11 AM | #331
Just want to say that I'm one of those 300k healing/150k damage type sorcerers.

I'm not a hybrid, I'm pure corruption spec (heals).

How did I get so pro as to do 150k damage with twice the healing? Simple. The 150k damage is all from tab dotting with affliction.

That does NOT make me overpowered. The damage is done for my own medals, I RARELY kill anyone in a warzone. I can keep dots rolling on most of the enemy team and not make a dent in their hp - but it sure looks like im a beast on the charts.

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islander
02.23.2012 , 08:14 AM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by da_krall View Post
Sorc - no leap, no pull, no heavy armour, no burst damage, half single target damage of other classes, no defensive CDs.

Oh look all classes have strenghts and weaknesses, L2P..........................seriously all the noobs playing sentinels who claim they are the hardest class to play - get over yourselves, Sentinel = ezmode.
I don't know about Sentinel being easy mode, but the first sentence is right on.
I PvP as a support specialist (I run 31 corruption even in PvP) and I can tell you straight up I do crap for DPS compared to - oh, anyone else. As I should being I'm heal specced.

I have a standard stun. I have an overload AOE that does minimal damage but occasionally I can line up and whack someone in the fire for a free kill. I have a whirlwind cc that - if I am lucky - can make someone stay cc'd for quite a while if they recently blew their own stun get out of free card.

I do have an extricate skill I can pull someone close to the goal in huttball - IF I am not killed or chased off by the other team coming out of their own base after dying. I can't stealth, takes a lot of the effectiveness out of the endeavor. I usually just save it for when a ball carrier gets in deep poop.

Oh and I'm always targeted. Rebs on my server are smart. There's about 6-8 consistent warzone pure heal spec Imperials who do evening warzones, and they know me by name. They come right after me.
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Natharon
02.23.2012 , 08:20 AM | #333
Humans gravitate towards advantages they can use over others, we are naturally competitive creatures. If those advantages lend themselves in the form of a class with more capabilities with less skill investment, that would be the natural choice for anyone looking to get ahead. Regardless of whether it is burst damage stealth classes, 1 button armor penetration heavy armor classes, or classes with high utility and great sustained damage.

There is nothing wrong with that, there are many reasons people made that choice, style of gameplay, the idea of using that particular class and its abilities, and the reason above. Not their fault for doing it, no point in getting mad at them.
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Macsimus
02.23.2012 , 08:25 AM | #334
Quote: Originally Posted by Proculus View Post
Just want to say that I'm one of those 300k healing/150k damage type sorcerers.

I'm not a hybrid, I'm pure corruption spec (heals).

How did I get so pro as to do 150k damage with twice the healing? Simple. The 150k damage is all from tab dotting with affliction.

That does NOT make me overpowered. The damage is done for my own medals, I RARELY kill anyone in a warzone. I can keep dots rolling on most of the enemy team and not make a dent in their hp - but it sure looks like im a beast on the charts.
But when medals are all that matter it makes all the difference in the world. I have a sorc, and it's very obvious that Sorcs are at the top of the pack, becasue they do everything well and nothing poorly. I still have fun playing my op, but if I just want to rack up the valor and coms, with 400k+ damage and 100k+ healing in 1 match with 40-50 kills, the Sorc/Sage is the way to go. Most CC in the game, insta cast everything with the right spec, and AOE damage for days.

I've said it since the start when everyone was crying about the OP, and now the Merc. Sorcs will continue to **** the face of PvP because most of the pop are playing that class, so you'll have the least complaints even though they clearly have the Best utility and do everything else as good or almost as good as any other class. But since I have one no problem here.
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EnsignSorrow
02.23.2012 , 08:37 AM | #335
Sorc is not even imbalanced. There is a lot of them because people hear from other people that they are so great, then people who aren't that class say they need to be fixed because other people said they need to be, but in reality it's followers following followers - following followers.

All who have slow reaction times. Since Sage/Sorc is nothing special in pvp. If they get a decrease (which they won't) they would be unplayable especially for the follower majority of the people who play that class.

That being said; if you are getting owned by that follower majority then you need to learn to play.


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GrandMike
02.23.2012 , 08:42 AM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by Macsimus View Post
But when medals are all that matter it makes all the difference in the world. I have a sorc, and it's very obvious that Sorcs are at the top of the pack, becasue they do everything well and nothing poorly. I still have fun playing my op, but if I just want to rack up the valor and coms, with 400k+ damage and 100k+ healing in 1 match with 40-50 kills, the Sorc/Sage is the way to go. Most CC in the game, insta cast everything with the right spec, and AOE damage for days.

I've said it since the start when everyone was crying about the OP, and now the Merc. Sorcs will continue to **** the face of PvP because most of the pop are playing that class, so you'll have the least complaints even though they clearly have the Best utility and do everything else as good or almost as good as any other class. But since I have one no problem here.
If you are only after medals sorc/sage is defnately NOT way to go.

And since wgen are medals "all that matters"?

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islander
02.23.2012 , 08:45 AM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by Natharon View Post
Humans gravitate towards advantages they can use over others, we are naturally competitive creatures. If those advantages lend themselves in the form of a class with more capabilities with less skill investment, that would be the natural choice for anyone looking to get ahead. Regardless of whether it is burst damage stealth classes, 1 button armor penetration heavy armor classes, or classes with high utility and great sustained damage.

There is nothing wrong with that, there are many reasons people made that choice, style of gameplay, the idea of using that particular class and its abilities, and the reason above. Not their fault for doing it, no point in getting mad at them.
I just gravitated to sorcerer because I can shoot lightning out of my hands, wield a lightsaber, and still heal groups.

Truth.
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BDutch
02.23.2012 , 08:46 AM | #338
Quote: Originally Posted by Proculus View Post
Just want to say that I'm one of those 300k healing/150k damage type sorcerers.

I'm not a hybrid, I'm pure corruption spec (heals).

How did I get so pro as to do 150k damage with twice the healing? Simple. The 150k damage is all from tab dotting with affliction.

That does NOT make me overpowered. The damage is done for my own medals, I RARELY kill anyone in a warzone. I can keep dots rolling on most of the enemy team and not make a dent in their hp - but it sure looks like im a beast on the charts.
Although I personally think sorcs could probably use a little tuning, (not a severe nerf by any means), I can definitely agree with these kind of numbers by tab dotting. When my scoundrel is in sawbones I can do 300k/150k by tabbing and vital shot... also more inclined to do this to prevent people from capping objectives anyway.

If there are any valid arguments against sorcs, these kind of numbers are not it, IMO.
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Jibarro
02.23.2012 , 08:46 AM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by BadgerFett View Post
Why so many people in online games prefer to faceroll their face off than achieve something with a little bit of skill? Almost every WZ i enter there are like 6-8 inquisitors in one team. I cant even see map cuz everything is purple, so many stupid lightnings. I never get that, why ppl roll classes that are easy and for newbs, just like ret palas in wotlk, just like frost mages now. Please BW nerf sorcerers. Sick damage, like 3 imbollizes, stun, bubble, bubble-blind, healz, sprint, constant channeled slow, knockbacks. I mean it, what the...? I just was in WZ where total number of players were 16, and there were 13 inquisitors... PvP in SWTOR isn't cool anyway, but sorcerers make it even worse. Please do something about it because this is riddicolous. See ya peeps and may the force be with You.
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EnsignSorrow
02.23.2012 , 08:59 AM | #340
Quote: Originally Posted by Jibarro View Post
I have fat fingers and couldn't hit my keys fast enough, make it easier for me so I stop yelling
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