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5/16/20 any good?


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zxosz
02.18.2012 , 12:27 PM | #1
i have yet to make a merc but i have been looking at the trees, just wondering if its any good

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#30...k0RMzZfhrbzG.1

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Ruzena
02.18.2012 , 12:32 PM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by zxosz View Post
i have yet to make a merc but i have been looking at the trees, just wondering if its any good

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#30...k0RMzZfhrbzG.1
Why tracer missile? Power shot and unload is what refreshes cd on railshot, i have not clue how you plan fitting tracer into that rotation?

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zxosz
02.18.2012 , 12:39 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruzena View Post
Why tracer missile? Power shot and unload is what refreshes cd on railshot, i have not clue how you plan fitting tracer into that rotation?
tracer ok dmg from what i have seen, but what i want is the ability to do good turret dmg but have mobility when it is need

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DervimNorth
02.18.2012 , 12:55 PM | #4
If you want to spam tracer, than just stick to arsenal, because pyro and arsenal just don't mix. To put it bluntly:

Arsenal=stationary turret.

Pyrotech=mobility+kiting.

Those two play styles just don't mix, not to mention heat-effectiveness.

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DarkenDragon
02.18.2012 , 01:04 PM | #5
this is just terrible, please read your abilities and talents before you even choose

1. combustion gas cylinder does not proc off tracer missiles because it only procs off blaster fire, thus your wasting your time casting tracer missiles.

2. majority of your if your pyro specs majority of your damage is gonna be from elemental damage thus your armor reduction from your tracer missiles will be pointless other than dealing slightly more damage from other's because armor only reduces damage from kinetic and energy damage

3. tracer missile only does more damage if you combine it with other abilities such as heat seeker missiles and rail shot with tracer lock which you dont have either one of them.

4. look at your numbers tracer missile does less damage than power shot, you have to cast 3 times before it can even get the same numbers from the armor reduction debuff, but power shot still will do more due to the combustion gas cylinder procing off of it.

do I need to continue? or can you read the rest of your abilities on your own?

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zxosz
02.18.2012 , 02:14 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkenDragon View Post
this is just terrible, please read your abilities and talents before you even choose

1. combustion gas cylinder does not proc off tracer missiles because it only procs off blaster fire, thus your wasting your time casting tracer missiles.

2. majority of your if your pyro specs majority of your damage is gonna be from elemental damage thus your armor reduction from your tracer missiles will be pointless other than dealing slightly more damage from other's because armor only reduces damage from kinetic and energy damage

3. tracer missile only does more damage if you combine it with other abilities such as heat seeker missiles and rail shot with tracer lock which you dont have either one of them.

4. look at your numbers tracer missile does less damage than power shot, you have to cast 3 times before it can even get the same numbers from the armor reduction debuff, but power shot still will do more due to the combustion gas cylinder procing off of it.

do I need to continue? or can you read the rest of your abilities on your own?
Well maybe you should have read my post its just a matter of switching cylinders. My main is a assassin darkness/maddness I got the same reactions most people don't think outside the box it just requires some awareness

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Amonet
02.18.2012 , 02:30 PM | #7
/facepalm

lol think outside the box? my friend, this build of yours is so utterly horrible it needs to jump back into the box, dig a hole, bury itself into the ground, and then have concrete poured over it so that no one can ever dig it up again.


i mean seriously, did you just close your eyes and click the talent trees randomly until this hideous mess of a build got thrown up?

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XyriusSES
02.18.2012 , 02:35 PM | #8
No, it's not.

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DarkenDragon
02.18.2012 , 04:22 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by zxosz View Post
Well maybe you should have read my post its just a matter of switching cylinders. My main is a assassin darkness/maddness I got the same reactions most people don't think outside the box it just requires some awareness
again read your talents and your abilities and your tool tips on your stats before commenting again and if you still dont find the problem you might want to go back to grade school to improve your reading skills

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SheepishOne
02.18.2012 , 06:18 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by zxosz View Post
Well maybe you should have read my post its just a matter of switching cylinders. My main is a assassin darkness/maddness I got the same reactions most people don't think outside the box it just requires some awareness
This really is a terrible idea since you are missing the basic rotations of each tree. You will just have some sustained DPS and be lacking in all forms of burst that let DPS classes stand apart. This isn't like Assassin switching, since your new stances in merc don't completely change gameplay roles and medal availability. You're just trading two weakened versions of a DPS tree back and forth.

Tracer Missile spamming will not kill someone. I know it's funny to say that it's all that's needed, but it will not be downing anyone soon on its own. Arsenals kill by punctuating that sustained DPS with their buffed follow ups (Rail Shot, HSM, and Unload). Pyros kill in much the same fashion but with elemental dots punctuated with TD+Rail+<30% dot crits.

You are also missing the key defensive abilities in your trees. Even when they were available (Such as the absolutely fantastic Power Shield) you opted for heat efficiency. Rocket punch and -16 heat isn't going to save you. A <1 min recast on Energy Shield or Power Shield + Energy Shield will keep you alive.
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