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People leaving wz is now out of control.

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Forsbacka
02.20.2012 , 04:36 PM | #291
Quote: Originally Posted by Ahebish View Post
First, it's not an "MMORPG" it's an "MMO"

There is a difference.

If you want to RPG go play wow, they have servers dedicated to that. This game does not.

I don't really understand your point. What does leveling and gearing have to do with what he's suggesting?

The game already has an extensive PVE genre niche over all other MMO's... what's wrong with adding a PVP niche as well?

As you said if you want a game like that it's called Wow.
Well this game is a straigh copy of WoW and they are adding all rest of its features in near future. EA is after WoW players, not atfer other MMORPG players.

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Bamajawn
02.20.2012 , 04:38 PM | #292
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
Ummm, there are servers dedicated to Role Play.
I've always wondered what PvP is like on the RP servers. We don't hear much about it.
Brotherhood of Chaos, Shadow Hand server

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Kitty_Whoopass
02.20.2012 , 04:42 PM | #293
I've found that when the bads quit we can actually turn the tide. I was in multiple matches over the weekend where it started bad for us. Like in Alderan they cap two turrets at the start. I start calling out basic strat (respawns hit X, get one more defender on left, etc.) three people quit. We get three new people, cap left and right, def/call incs and win. And the come from behind win to crush the Imps is all the more savory.

It happened so much I started being glad when the bads just left. Now sometimes the original bads are replaced with other bads, not much you can do there.

The bottom line though is that if you want good coordinated play you can't just queue by yourself. Take some time and create a premade, join a pvp guild, or be willing to realize sometimes you end up in a bad random group. In this case take your lumps.

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Ahebish
02.20.2012 , 04:45 PM | #294
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
Ummm, there are servers dedicated to Role Play.
odd, I guess I just never noticed. But I also don't play a game to pretend to be something I'm not. I play a game because it's fun.

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Ahebish
02.20.2012 , 04:49 PM | #295
Quote: Originally Posted by Forsbacka View Post
Well this game is a straigh copy of WoW and they are adding all rest of its features in near future. EA is after WoW players, not atfer other MMORPG players.
I understand that,

but it's wow players that will destroy this game because of what blizzard did.

I'm hoping Biowizard doesn't let that happen.

They and the wow community did it once with the nerf to scoundrels/operatives while completely disregarding all other classes.

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Ossos
02.20.2012 , 04:52 PM | #296
Quote: Originally Posted by Kitty_Whoopass View Post
I've found that when the bads quit we can actually turn the tide. I was in multiple matches over the weekend where it started bad for us. Like in Alderan they cap two turrets at the start. I start calling out basic strat (respawns hit X, get one more defender on left, etc.) three people quit. We get three new people, cap left and right, def/call incs and win. And the come from behind win to crush the Imps is all the more savory.

It happened so much I started being glad when the bads just left. Now sometimes the original bads are replaced with other bads, not much you can do there.

The bottom line though is that if you want good coordinated play you can't just queue by yourself. Take some time and create a premade, join a pvp guild, or be willing to realize sometimes you end up in a bad random group. In this case take your lumps.
I'm looking forward to hearing about how you turned the tide in an Alderran match where you were losing 85 to 465.

...because that hasn't happened and I believe that you are being less than....honest.
Preventing Hackers and Exploiters from ruining the game is not a priority. Preventing you from mentioning the fact that they exist and go unpunished is.

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Ahebish
02.20.2012 , 04:53 PM | #297
Quote: Originally Posted by Bamajawn View Post
I've always wondered what PvP is like on the RP servers. We don't hear much about it.
It's basically a PVE server with controled PVP outcomes.

People pretending to be something they aren't while scripting specific plots and/or conversation.

Sometimes these people are in character 100% of the time to the point they won't talk to you unless you RP.

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Ahebish
02.20.2012 , 04:54 PM | #298
Quote: Originally Posted by Ossos View Post
I'm looking forward to hearing about how you turned the tide in an Alderran match where you were losing 85 to 465.

...because that hasn't happened and I believe that you are being less than....honest.
It is possible.

Very unlikely but it is possible

Only way to do it is with a 3 cap.

Also based on the scores you mention the opposing team would had to have 3 capped at least once prior.

465 score is impossible when it starts at 600 without a 3cap by the winning team to give that much of a point spread.

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Ossos
02.20.2012 , 05:00 PM | #299
Quote: Originally Posted by Ahebish View Post
It is possible.

Very unlikely but it is possible

Only way to do it is with a 3 cap.

Also based on the scores you mention the opposing team would had to have 3 capped at least once prior.

465 score is impossible when it starts at 600 without a 3cap by the winning team to give that much of a point spread.
I know it's possible, but is it probable? No friggen way.
Preventing Hackers and Exploiters from ruining the game is not a priority. Preventing you from mentioning the fact that they exist and go unpunished is.

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Genocidalx
02.20.2012 , 05:01 PM | #300
Quote: Originally Posted by Ahebish View Post
I don't really understand your point. What does leveling and gearing have to do with what he's suggesting?

The game already has an extensive PVE genre niche over all other MMO's... what's wrong with adding or bolstering a PVP niche as well?
How do you not understand?

This "No Child Left Behind" culture is really pathetic and I'm tired of it. It's YOUR duty alone to be competitive. You have the same tools as anyone else with which to work. Handle it yourself by whatever means you can. If I spent time leveling and gearing, I deserve the advantage.

In old RPGs if an underleveled person attacked a person of superior gear and levels, they got annihilated. It was right. It was expected. It was as it should be. Go get more levels, more gear, meet me man to man and the outcome will probably still be the same if your attitude is scrounging for handouts, or if you're looking for someone else to diminish me to empower you.

Eventually you have to rely on yourself and put in the time. There are going to be discrepancies. Deal with it. Work your way up and earn your keep. That's all there is to it. School may have taught you that there are no losers, but the real nightmare you will face is that there are losers. Losing is great incentive to get better or quit. That's what separates goods from bads.