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Anyone else finding the consular story...very dry?

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Anyone else finding the consular story...very dry?

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Aquarra
02.17.2012 , 01:21 AM | #11
Short answer: No. No it does not. It's as thrilling as watching paint dry. There are a bunch of threads already about this in the consular forums but for the sake of laziness I will just re-post what I posted there because I don't see the need to retype the same thing. And I don't know how much of that thread you'd want to actually bother reading.

I am aware I have been very negative regarding this subject countless times, but I cannot stress just HOW MUCH this story pissed me off.

Long answer:

Consular storyline is horrible. Worst of all the classes I have tried so far. I did get to 50 on mine and stopped playing right after I finished because it pissed me off so much. The companion characters are all unlikeable and boring except for Nadia, who is still boring but at least she's a bit likeable. Whoever did the voice acting for the females put little to no emotion into their performance and time and time again I wished I could punch whoever did it in the face along with whoever okayed the performance.

Prologue - I was excited to play this class and hoping for something good.

Chapter 1 - Feeling VERY skeptical on how things were going.

Chapter 2 - Not interested at all. Playing for the love of the class mechanics.

Chapter 3 - COMPLETELY PISSED OFF at how terrible the story and companions are but want to finish hoping the ending makes it worth the effort.

I felt SO cheated at the end off all this, as if they forgot to write the scenario for the class and then threw in some half-formulated ideas and ran with it hoping no one would notice. Qyzen Fess is boring. Theran Cedrax is a jerk (I would use harsher language but can't), Zenith is as interesting as drying paint, Iresso is a generic soldier (woo hoo for a boring military man), Nadia is cute at least. I felt like I wasted my time paying attention to the story. I finished my final class quest and thought to myself..."This is it? I thought at least something interesting would have happened. Even my final title I get at the end of the story is garbage." All the "big reveals" were predictable and the pacing is GODAWFUL. Slow in the beginning and rushing at the end as if they want you to hurry through so you don't have to think about how stupid and boring things really are in this story.

I knew I was playing a diplomat who could also throw down in a fight, but I guess I expected too much (You know, a good story.) I was hoping for some interesting political intrigue or at least something that had even the slightest bit of substance. I've read more interesting children's picture books if you want me to be completely honest. I would have quit and re-rolled if not for me enjoying the class itself and been really hoping things would pick up. I kept thinking, "this is boring but it's got to get better!" It never did.

There are some who enjoy the story which really astounds me, but to each their own I suppose.

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Kanubis
02.17.2012 , 04:17 AM | #12
The only disappointment for me was the companions, but most other aspects I loved.

It's not a story to impress by throwing big plot twists and shocking moments at you. The only plot twist is hardly astounding when it comes.

It's a story you'll enjoy if you identify with what the Consular is and the things that they do. If feeling like you're building up the allies of the Republic and cleaning mess within the Order doesn't appeal to you you probably won't enjoy it.

I levelled alongside my gf on her JK. We went to all each other's Story instances and would pear over the other's shoulder while they're on a ship holo call or comm call. I guess that objectively her story was better written, but I definitely enjoyed playing the Consular more than I would have a JK, because what you achieve throughout the story is far more satisfying for me.

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Aquarra
02.17.2012 , 05:13 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Kanubis View Post
The only disappointment for me was the companions, but most other aspects I loved.

It's not a story to impress by throwing big plot twists and shocking moments at you. The only plot twist is hardly astounding when it comes.

It's a story you'll enjoy if you identify with what the Consular is and the things that they do. If feeling like you're building up the allies of the Republic and cleaning mess within the Order doesn't appeal to you you probably won't enjoy it.
The problem I have with what you're saying (Not saying your opinion is wrong since it is an opinion as well as what I'm about to say) is that plot twists and shocking moments COULD have been implemented. Just because you're playing a Jedi diplomat does not mean the story can't be exciting. I've read many books about boring subjects that turned out to be fantastic because they had memorable characters, expected as well as unexpected plot points that were delivered in a way to promote overall enjoyment of the story presented.

One of the main flaws of the consular story, at least in my mind is the repetition. Sure when you play a JK it's go here and save this then go over and save that but at LEAST you're facing different foes with different types of plans and your companions actually HAVE REASONS FOR COMING WITH YOU. I cannot stress the irritation I got because with the exception of Nadia, no one who is on your ship as a companion has a reason to be there for any reason whatsoever.

There is no excuse for lack of entertainment just because "you're a diplomat! You shouldn't expect dramatic plot twists and excitement!" I don't mind "cleaning up messes" within the order or "helping in republic diplomatic relations" all of these things I felt had the potential for some serious fun factor plot wise which I felt was not there. There is also the fact that a lot of plot points don't seem accounted for if you play dark side or neutral. This story felt like they passed it off to someone who forgot they were supposed to be writing a story and then handed in a very rough draft that was accepted because they had no other options.

I really felt they dropped the ball, the interesting lore and potential they had with a Jedi diplomat was so great they may have just been setting themselves up for failure. They just did not deliver on any count except for class mechanics. (Even those have some of their own issues but that is something altogether not plot related) Some of my favourite games of all times are visual novel games and plot heavy rpgs where sometimes I just want to skip all the battles because I want more story! I don't need tons and tons of action to feel a story is good. So please, please do not think I'm just hating on it because "I want bash things with my lightsaber!!"

You know what? tl:dr - Just because you're a diplomat doesn't mean you can't have an exciting plot. Excitement doesn't have to be SUPER ACTION, it can just be well written memorable things you need to overcome to help diplomatic relations or some such. Lack of action isn't the problem, it's lack of good characterization of the people surrounding you and lack of depth to the story itself.

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samlightone
02.17.2012 , 08:37 AM | #14
Ive deliberately only read the question so you get my true response, for me personally, Prologue, Act 1 and the start of Act2 are good, the rest all had potential but i agree was very dry. I love BW but it seemed like the story had great potential but was a bit lazy, e.g. the little things like the lack of the epic medal ceremony music at the end etc
just my opinion

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TKMaster
02.17.2012 , 08:55 AM | #15
I got to lvl 22....now after geting a JK to lvl 20 i couldnt go back to the JC snoozefest. I guess Yoda was talking about his own class when he said.... "Adventure...heh! Excitement...heh! A jedi craves not these things."

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Kesh_
02.17.2012 , 10:01 AM | #16
I've played all the classes to level 20+, many to 40+ (except Sith inquistor, played alongside a friend who was one and the idea of being a ghostbuster in a star wars environment was too stupid to contemplate).

Don't play Jedi Consular for the story, companions, or dialogue. Other classes have much better in all these categories (Story - IA, SW, Trooper; Companions - Smuggler, IA, BH; Dialogue - Smuggler, smuggler, smuggler). But being a sneaky tank with good dps (jedi shadow) and some of the other possibilities is one of the more enjoyable classes to play for pure game mechanics.

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smartalectwo
02.17.2012 , 12:59 PM | #17
It's the Obi-Wan experience. You're in a story, but it's not centered on you, and it's not about you. You're in a story about war and change across a grand scale, and though you are someone who sees it happen first hand - and you are even an agent for that change - it's not your story so much as it is the story of the galaxy at large. You're just the man or woman on the spot, nothing special. If you didn't exist, then someone would have to do the things you do - but it's fallen to you to do them. It's not about destiny, but duty. So yeah, it's kinda dry.

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I can certainly understand why folk would find the other stories more engaging, but I don't think the Consular storyline is without merit. It's just a bit different.
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Shadenuat
02.17.2012 , 05:27 PM | #18
It's the Obi-Wan experience. You're in a story, but it's not centered on you, and it's not about you.

If a Knight story is a story of a Knight, Consular's is more like of a monk and a mediator.

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DarthRamette
02.17.2012 , 05:59 PM | #19
I also quit that class due to it being boring at lvl 16 and have not heard good things about it even as you get higher up. I am really enjoying my Sith Warrior story right now and I am lvl 38.

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Jedikuonji
02.17.2012 , 07:13 PM | #20
I really loved the intro series on Tython, I found it really fun and the lead up story to the final battle there was really enjoyable. After that, I pretty much hated the story and gave up shortly thereafter (a little after getting my ship) because I was just bored with the story and the outlook for things improving didn't seem very good.