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Vader vs Revan


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Girdeux
02.20.2012 , 12:05 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by havok_bloodcraft View Post
Wrong it is a canon fact that the jedi were weaker in this time than almost any other having not been tested in their lifetimes. yoda was the only one who may have had real experience fighting a sith ever before ep 1. the jedi of that time period were weak and nothing more than glorified cops. eg they failed to sense sideous while he was in the same room and lost to clone troopers meanwhile in the old republic the jedi exterminated the mandolorians who were as well trained as the clones were. I'll give that boba fett personally may have been better. but the other clones weren't.
Rofl it doesnt matter what Kreia or any other crazy kook said. Lucas said the strongest Sith/Jedi EVER lived during the Clone wars era while also stating the PT Jedi were in their absolute prime. And its even confirmed in the EU sources that the many of the strongest era lived during the Clone wars era. Vader>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Revan.

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havok_bloodcraft
02.20.2012 , 12:05 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by BrandonSM View Post
You do know that Wookieepedia gets all of its info from The Novels right?
yes and it's a time saver to read the compilation of relevant data there as opposed to reading long drawn out books that read like dbz episodes.

reading a wookiepedia page on palpatine 15 mins.

reading every book that mentioned palpatine 3-4 days. (not to mention the headaches I would get from the sub par literature)((Yes I called it sub par as there are plenty of authors who write wonderful novels that are worth reading Larry Correia and Jim Butcher for example.))

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havok_bloodcraft
02.20.2012 , 12:14 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
Rofl it doesnt matter what Kreia or any other crazy kook said. Lucas said the strongest Sith/Jedi EVER lived during the Clone wars era. Vader>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Revan.
I nowhere said kreia or anyone else.
as a point of fact yoda said the jedi of ages past were better because they were vanguards in the war against evil and corruption as opposed to just senate guards(paraphrasing).

Think about it the jedi who fought off exar kun then mandolorians then sith then more sith then more sith and kept the republic alive for another 3000 years just about have to have been better than the jedi that were wiped out by 2 sith and some clone troopers. and presided over the fall of a republic that stood for over 4000 years.

Come on think logically I know you can.

saying the jedi at the time of the prequel trilogy were the best jedi ever is like saying constantine was the greatest emperor rome ever had.

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Girdeux
02.20.2012 , 12:20 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by havok_bloodcraft View Post
I nowhere said kreia or anyone else.
as a point of fact yoda said the jedi of ages past were better because they were vanguards in the war against evil and corruption as opposed to just senate guards(paraphrasing).

Think about it the jedi who fought off exar kun then mandolorians then sith then more sith then more sith and kept the republic alive for another 3000 years just about have to have been better than the jedi that were wiped out by 2 sith and some clone troopers. and presided over the fall of a republic that stood for over 4000 years.

Come on think logically I know you can.

saying the jedi at the time of the prequel trilogy were the best jedi ever is like saying constantine was the greatest emperor rome ever had.
No. The PT Jedi >>>>>>>> Old Republic jedi. Your biased because Revan or anybody else from the Old Republic era would get slaughtered. Those "2 Sith", 1 being the strongest Sith Ever while the other being the strongest jedi of his generation, before his injuries is said to be able to take down Sidious and able to compete with Yoda(The strongest jedi ever up until Luke, that means Yoda>>>>>>>>>>Revan).

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BrandonSM
02.20.2012 , 12:39 AM | #55
Hm.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Character statments aren't canon. GL, Leland Chee and, LA. Are the only people people who can state canon.
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."

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havok_bloodcraft
02.20.2012 , 01:39 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
No. The PT Jedi >>>>>>>> Old Republic jedi. Your biased because Revan or anybody else from the Old Republic era would get slaughtered. Those "2 Sith", 1 being the strongest Sith Ever while the other being the strongest jedi of his generation, before his injuries is said to be able to take down Sidious and able to compete with Yoda(The strongest jedi ever up until Luke, that means Yoda>>>>>>>>>>Revan).
even if he was the strongest sith ever numbers matter that's why the clones killed the jedi. 15,000 sith= greater challenge than 2 and anakin never realized his potential so what he could have been is irrelevant. he ended up about as powerful as douku. and on that note you guys can have this thread because you are the greatest ever at being unable to think outside your GL box.

Yes I concede the world is flat.

Happy now?

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BrandonSM
02.20.2012 , 01:58 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by havok_bloodcraft View Post
even if he was the strongest sith ever numbers matter that's why the clones killed the jedi. 15,000 sith= greater challenge than 2 and anakin never realized his potential so what he could have been is irrelevant. he ended up about as powerful as douku. and on that note you guys can have this thread because you are the greatest ever at being unable to think outside your GL box.

Yes I concede the world is flat.

Happy now?
No. You completely miss the entire point of the Ro2. The Dark Side is stronger when concentrated to lower numbers. And it also prevents Sith turning on eachother.

Its like a pie. Smaller people, bigger pieces.
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."

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_Zorth_
02.20.2012 , 07:18 AM | #58
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15,000 sith= greater challenge than 2

Not true, When there are more sith they don't matter that much. Anybody can get recruited, You can die just as easily and it won't matter.

You go by the logic that every sith is equally powerful, Just like Brandon SM said, You should look at it like a pie/pizza. The less people the more slices of pizza (Dark Side) they get.
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MajinEddie
02.20.2012 , 08:18 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by _Zorth_ View Post

Not true, When there are more sith they don't matter that much. Anybody can get recruited, You can die just as easily and it won't matter.

You go by the logic that every sith is equally powerful, Just like Brandon SM said, You should look at it like a pie/pizza. The less people the more slices of pizza (Dark Side) they get.
Is fals. The strongets sith of the time will be the strongest sith of the time. With or without the rule of 2. Aniken still would of had the same potential with or without the rule of 2. Apretic kills master during a time of weakness. When thy are hurt/asleep and the like. It never worked like it was ment to. Even if there were 1000 sith palpatine still would have been the strongest. Rule of 2 changed nothing as far as str goes.

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BrandonSM
02.20.2012 , 09:07 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by MajinEddie View Post
Is fals. The strongets sith of the time will be the strongest sith of the time. With or without the rule of 2. Aniken still would of had the same potential with or without the rule of 2. Apretic kills master during a time of weakness. When thy are hurt/asleep and the like. It never worked like it was ment to. Even if there were 1000 sith palpatine still would have been the strongest. Rule of 2 changed nothing as far as str goes.
Nope. Anakin was created by Plageuis who would be nothing without the Ro2 AND Plageuis was Sid's master.

Because of the Ro2 Sidious was the strongest.
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."