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WZ queue bug allowing more players than 8

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WZ queue bug allowing more players than 8

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KidMcClaren
02.15.2012 , 10:49 AM | #1
Between all WZ's ending in 120 secs due to 1 faction or the other adding more than 8 people to a side and Ilum kill trading, PVP on my server is now completely dead.

I spent all yesterday in bogus WZ's and watching people kill trade in Ilum. The Ilum trade I didn't care much about because I could still get decent pvp in WZ's. Now I can't even do that.

I have yet to even see a Dev response to this problem, and it's only getting worse. Please fix this BW, you now have ZERO LEGITIMATE PVP.

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KidMcClaren
02.15.2012 , 11:02 AM | #2
Obviously everyone has accepted the complete death of pvp and I'm just late to the party

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Azzlum
02.15.2012 , 11:07 AM | #3
This exploit IS getting out of hand. I did around 25 wz's yesterday on Krayt Dragon and by my estimation at least 15 of those had exploited teams.

Edit: You know what, I forgot to include my lowbie warzones... I did another 10-15 warzones with my "lowbie" and AT LEAST half of those were exploited as well.

Basically... the problem is RAMPANT. I bet in the past 2 months I've played over 200 exploited warzones.

I'm sure Biofail will take their sweet f**king time fixing it too. It's only been a WIDELY KNOWN issue for 3-4 patches now.

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melsworld
02.15.2012 , 11:09 AM | #4
I'm also quite frustrated with the lack of dev response about this issue and with customer service just closing the tickets and saying I didn't provide enough info.

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Apocropheliac
02.15.2012 , 11:15 AM | #5
My guild has tested this bug and we have reported how it is done to the proper channels. The response is that BW knows of this issue, they are working on a fix and they are recording anyone who does it for bans.

I am not going to go into how to do this but suffice it to say it is reproducable very easily.

My hope is this is fixed relatively soon.
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Nakazia
02.15.2012 , 11:17 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by KidMcClaren View Post
Obviously everyone has accepted the complete death of pvp and I'm just late to the party
It's on life support at the very least.

Between Ilum's poor design and all the rewards that are linked to it.

People hacking in warzones and not being banned for not obeying the ToS.

But let's nerf Pure shock frozen water and surge when there are all these fundamental problems that are far more detrimental to the PvP system that still exist.

The solution to an imbalance has become a just nerf everyone situation instead of facing the real problem and fixing that issue specifically. Bioware you can't assume that your classes are perfectly balanced at this point and nerfing everyone certainly won't help either.

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Organikal
02.15.2012 , 11:21 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Apocropheliac View Post
My guild has tested this bug and we have reported how it is done to the proper channels. The response is that BW knows of this issue, they are working on a fix and they are recording anyone who does it for bans.

I am not going to go into how to do this but suffice it to say it is reproducable very easily.

My hope is this is fixed relatively soon.
Screen shot or it didn't happen.

They have openly stated that they have no logging means of seeing who did it because even though it is easily re-produced it also happens by pure accident. How do you draw the line from intended to accident?

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Cruxe
02.15.2012 , 11:23 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Nakazia View Post
It's on life support at the very least.

Between Ilum's poor design and all the rewards that are linked to it.

People hacking in warzones and not being banned for not obeying the ToS.

But let's nerf Pure shock frozen water and surge when there are all these fundamental problems that are far more detrimental to the PvP system that still exist.

The solution to an imbalance has become a just nerf everyone situation instead of facing the real problem and fixing that issue specifically. Bioware you can't assume that your classes are perfectly balanced at this point and nerfing everyone certainly won't help either.

They didn't nerf pure shockfrozen water, they fixed it. And that, along with surge, were easy fixes.

Do you honestly expect them to be able to completely overhaul Ilum in 3 weeks, or go through thousands of lines of code to try and figure out how to fix the increased WZ group size bug? Those kinds of things take a considerable amount of time.

If, at this point, you honestly don't think they are looking into both those issues and trying to fix them, you're delusional.
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Azzlum
02.15.2012 , 11:23 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Apocropheliac View Post
My guild has tested this bug and we have reported how it is done to the proper channels. The response is that BW knows of this issue, they are working on a fix and they are recording anyone who does it for bans.

I am not going to go into how to do this but suffice it to say it is reproducable very easily.

My hope is this is fixed relatively soon.
Post translation: My guild has exploited the f**k out warzones on our server and it works REALLY well. We then decided to report it to Bioware so we can look like "testers" and avoid the ban hammer.

Oh and "they are recording anyone who does it for bans.".... this line is completely made up. READ: LIES.

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DrIzzt-DoUrden
02.15.2012 , 11:25 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by KidMcClaren View Post
Between all WZ's ending in 120 secs due to 1 faction or the other adding more than 8 people to a side and Ilum kill trading, PVP on my server is now completely dead.

I spent all yesterday in bogus WZ's and watching people kill trade in Ilum. The Ilum trade I didn't care much about because I could still get decent pvp in WZ's. Now I can't even do that.

I have yet to even see a Dev response to this problem, and it's only getting worse. Please fix this BW, you now have ZERO LEGITIMATE PVP.
Like all bugs once people figure out how to exploit them they cant keep their mouths shut so they spread the word. This hurts in the short term but in the long term as the problem grows more and more people like yourself bring the issue to the attention of the devs by posting on the forums or creating in-game tickets.

You have done your part, now its time for them to do theirs.

All you can do is hope they fix the issue sooner rather than later.