The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

Yeah the Wrath suggestion is the "nuclear option". The other change I suggested was the one I mentioned as the preferred option to just tone them down slightly to see where they stand afterwards.

It is really very simple. Three of anything on one target is death. Now three Sorc just have it faster and easier. Thier damage is high because they are so squishy. That increased damage is then multiplied by 3 of them on one target.

So basically they scale more then any other class by how many of them there are. One all by itself is a joke BTW. I will just rip it to shreds and have blown every interrupt I have to do it.

See most of what they are doing is a cast. You can interrupt one of them. You can't interrupt two or three of them. Again a reason why they scale so well the more you have. Maybe it is intended since it is such a weak and fragile class alone.

I feel for all of you weak fragile Sorc that know you are nothing by yourself and don't want to hear another word about needing nerfs. Just something about how you work as a group needs to change.

Sorry but it is no fun for any person I have ever spoken to being crushed in second over and over because three Sorc lock on to him every time they see him. You wouldn't think it was fun either. Infact it would ruin your PVP enjoyment. Wouldn't it?

Now I don't know how you fix a problem like that aside from making the same type of damage from another target suffer from some diminished effect when it hits you at the same time. Also that screws with numbers and those who care about how much damage they do over the objectives.

Take what you will from this. Just my rant!

This explains everything.

Those that disagree are either too blind to see the strength of the sorc, too ignorant to believe the strength of a sorc or a sorc trying to keep himself on a pedestal.

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They are not weak and fragile. Just take a look at my bubble math. They're no squisher than any other class unless they're main tanking a raid boss(or standing still tanking multiple players for extended periods of time while getting bombarded with heals).

This thread still going on? Man I need more popcorn to see all those bads cry more about Sorcs and Sages.

Pure comedy.

So are you.

Make you a deal.

First you would really need to focus on the two classes that really need some help.

Trooper/Merc need to be balanced out they do more damage and have at least as much effective utility as a Sorc.

Fix Sith warrior and Jedi knights.

They require far to much work to pull off the same damage as most other classes. Its rather pathetic that you should have to use 8-12 abilities to pull the same damage as a Merc/trooper that can use 3-4 abilities to do better damage at range. \

After those things are fixed please feel free to look into Sorc.

One of your key issues and where your argument falls flat is you are taking ALL the potential abilities from 2 different trees and making it sound like a Sorc has all of them, and that's simply not true.

Players running these hybrid classes don't have half the abilities you are running together. I am sure I could make a post on say Sentinel running abilities from 2 trees together that no sent would actually have and make a huge QQ post and have people crying in the night like frightened children as well. Anyone that actually plays the class knows you are kind of making crap up on the fly and so do the dev's.

Except if you read the original post fully and looked at the CCs I listed with the specs I posted you would see that every single bit of that CC I mentioned is obtainable by a single Sorcerer while also not giving up much damage.

Nvm I reread the OP..

Ty tumri.

Strange, I see more and more Mercs/Vanguards and Guardians/Juggers at the moment.
Guess it is again all subjective?

I only know you talk so much BS out of your rear it is pure comedy.
Every class in this game is easy no exception. Anyone spouting rubbish how "skillful" another class is especially pure tunnelvision class like Sent/Marauder needs their head checked.

Why should someone post something relevant in a completely irrelevant thread full of diehards who think their opinion is better than others and pretend they had some sort of argument when in reality its a steaming pile of BS?

This class is an early bloomer, real early. While I have most of my utilities by 16, Operatives don't get their main attack until 36. Marauders/Juggernauts good abilities are sprinkled throughout. In the sub 50 bracket I'd imagine Sorcerers do much better, their top talents aren't great (minus healing spec) and the chance of the enemy not having the tools to deal with you is much better. I'd say they're overpowered in the lower bracket, leveling was a breeze with healing spec and given how much I had to heal it'd have probably been faster to dps and use my off heals when needed. I'd say it's fairly easy to play as well, but I also agree with you getting to 50 and getting some gear. When everybody has their big damage skills and utility that a Sorcerer gets by 16 I'd imagine it comes more inline. Admittedly, I haven't rerolled another Sorcerer and I didn't switch to DPS until 50.