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The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

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The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

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YMIHere
02.16.2012 , 08:06 AM | #571
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruzena View Post
The class is able to score 17 medals no problems, something is seriously wrong, I tried to carbonize \ dart \ grapple scoring sorc, he removes cc, then he bubbles and charges throught flames, If I am lucky and don't get stunned, I try to grapple him back 90% of the time grapple doesnt work on sprinting sorceers. What sorcery is that?

I am getting tired of this...
17 medals no problem, says the class who has access to all three columns. Bubble sprinting is no different than popping invincible and walking through, unless you're out for revenge. In which case you now have a sorc with no bubble, sprint, or CC breaker. =P Is the sorc getting out of range with sprint? If not it sounds like you should file a bug report instead of posting it in a balance thread.

Edited for missing word (last sentence sounded like I didn't want you posting in the thread at all), and mentioning that I did enjoy the pun. =P
Gort - Sorc
Iron Citadel

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Vales
02.16.2012 , 08:19 AM | #572
Quote: Originally Posted by _Flin_ View Post
Yeah, right. Don't need to read any further. Because, well, you know, people never use their skill points. And they never put it into static barrier. Making it cost 30 less.
Which is a healer talent hybrid and 31 TK or Madness Sorcs cannot get. Yet another clueless whiner exposed. But please entertain me some more with your blatant ignorance. It is highly amusing.

Quote: Originally Posted by _Flin_ View Post
Concerning mobility:
I have three instant heals:
1. Hammer Shot. I cannot use this one on myself, and hardly on others in pvp (because of the "Look. I am a healer. Here I stand. Please focus me now!" message it sends, which isn't worth the effort for 250-300 ticks)
2. Bacta Infusion
Really good spell, don't know of a better single target heal. Crits for something around 2.5 k. Instant, no resources. Quite a cd, though, 18secs.
3. Kolto Bomb
Low cd, target AE for up to 3 targets, heals 750-900, crits 1200-1400, improves healing received for target, with supercharge cells 10% mitigation for quite some time (rare).

No speed up, no jump, no rescue.
If someone targets me, I can stand quite some time. But I will never ever get away, when not in huttball, where i can bump them off from up high, jump into boxes or use air vents to escape. Dedicated people hunt me and kill me. My best bet is to bubble when resolve is full, heal me up with my cast time spells, then find help. Or to run away and hope they get bored or find a "better" target.

So it is not that I think Commando is a bad healer.
I am just under the expression that, when it comes to healing, the sorc heals better.
Plus has more utility to actually win games with great skills (Voidstar sprints, Huttball rescues).
Plus isn't much easier to take down than I am, although I have a slight advantage there.
I just have to add this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKHvwJjT12w

So where are my 4k+ crits on my Seer?
And do not even try to bring up Disturbance...
This game needs more Kel Dor!

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YMIHere
02.16.2012 , 08:31 AM | #573
Quote: Originally Posted by Vales View Post
Which is a healer talent hybrid and 31 TK or Madness Sorcs cannot get. Yet another clueless whiner exposed. But please entertain me some more with your blatant ignorance. It is highly amusing.
Flin is having a different discussion than the rest of us... well, most of us are way off topic. =) He was comparing the healing of Sorcerers with Commandos.

Quote:
I just have to add this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKHvwJjT12w

So where are my 4k+ crits on my Seer?
And do not even try to bring up Disturbance...
Look at all the buffs on that guy's bar and the levels of his enemies. This was pre-consumable and 50s bracket.
Gort - Sorc
Iron Citadel

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da_krall
02.16.2012 , 08:48 AM | #574
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruzena View Post
The class is able to score 17 medals no problems.
Oh pls list those medals......if you cant ill take it your just another bull******* ****

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Siegesan
02.16.2012 , 08:53 AM | #575
So. Much. Butthurt. Itt
Jamesan - 50 Sorc - Nadds

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Lormif
02.16.2012 , 08:55 AM | #576
Quote: Originally Posted by _Flin_ View Post
For a sorc you have to do about 30k damage. How many classes can say that about themselves?
and where exactly do you get that number? Out of your butt? 16k +3.5 (assuming this no one can comfirm it being that high) is 19.5.. If you are lucky you got a cast before battle and somehow lasted long enough too then you have 16+7 which is still 23.. So where exactly is the other 11.5k-7k coming from?

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Lormif
02.16.2012 , 09:01 AM | #577
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruzena View Post
The class is able to score 17 medals no problems, something is seriously wrong, I tried to carbonize \ dart \ grapple scoring sorc, he removes cc, then he bubbles and charges throught flames, If I am lucky and don't get stunned, I try to grapple him back 90% of the time grapple doesnt work on sprinting sorceers. What sorcery is that?

I am getting tired of this...
Please tell me this is some bad trolling attempt....

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_Flin_
02.16.2012 , 09:02 AM | #578
Quote: Originally Posted by YMIHere View Post
Flin is having a different discussion than the rest of us... well, most of us are way off topic. =) He was comparing the healing of Sorcerers with Commandos.
I can only judge the overpoweredness from my personal point of view. Which is the one of a Commando Healer. Since I do not know the fine points of the hybrid spec, I cannot add to that. Apart from "I have a hard time to hybrid, since my best stuff is top-tier".

Concerning overpoweredness of cc I cannot add anything. Only thing commandos have is QQ.

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da_krall
02.16.2012 , 09:09 AM | #579
Quote: Originally Posted by _Flin_ View Post
I can only judge the overpoweredness from my personal point of view. Which is the one of a Commando Healer. Since I do not know the fine points of the hybrid spec, I cannot add to that. Apart from "I have a hard time to hybrid, since my best stuff is top-tier".

Concerning overpoweredness of cc I cannot add anything. Only thing commandos have is QQ.
LoL, your a commando healer - what you need to do to judge OPness is look in a mirror.

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BoDiE
02.16.2012 , 09:11 AM | #580
Still necro'ing this tired, irrelevant thread guys?
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