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The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

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The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

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Celebrus
02.15.2012 , 03:07 PM | #311
Quote: Originally Posted by shaidarlol View Post
roughly translated, "i'm bad at this game, and i refuse to learn how to counter these abilities, i prefer someone just make it easier for me"
Roughly translated: I enjoy having an advantage over other players, then rubbing that blatant advantage in their face, then I enjoy calling them ridiculous when they ask for my advatange to be taken away because I couldn't function without it but rather than admitting that I will call them "bads" because my vocabulary is limited.

Sorcs/sages will get tuned, just like ops did, and yes, the op "nerf" if you can even call it that, was needed.

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savionen
02.15.2012 , 03:08 PM | #312
Quote: Originally Posted by shaidarlol View Post
it isn't about your own personal skill.

if you propose a point which is sorcerers' ccs are over powered, and yet you can do better than them in pvp. there are only 2 possibilities.

a) you are an absolute master at your class either due to your own natural talents or intelligence or what have you.

b) the cc's are actually not overpowered as you have learned how to beat them

is that a wrong assumption?
If everyone but Sorcerers think they need to be nerfed, does everyone but Sorcerers need to learn to play? Seems like the exact same thing as before Operatives got nerfed.

Operative before they got nerfed: Operatives shouldn't be nerfed, it's fine that I 3-shot everyone. They just need to l2p. This is the only class I play.

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JohnSixteen
02.15.2012 , 03:08 PM | #313
Quote: Originally Posted by shaidarlol View Post
i am sorry, your reason of rolling a sorcerer is completely invalid because of the "fact" that they are op, because it is the only reason to roll a sorcerer.
Well I'm not sure how my own personal reason for rolling a class could be invalid, but hey I'll go with that.

Did you eat a pop tart this morning? If so, your reply is invalid due to the fact that pop tarts are op, which is the only reason to eat one.

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shaidarlol
02.15.2012 , 03:10 PM | #314
Quote: Originally Posted by Celebrus View Post
Roughly translated: I enjoy having an advantage over other players, then rubbing that blatant advantage in their face, then I enjoy calling them ridiculous when they ask for my advatange to be taken away because I couldn't function without it but rather than admitting that I will call them "bads" because my vocabulary is limited.

Sorcs/sages will get tuned, just like ops did, and yes, the op "nerf" if you can even call it that, was needed.
if the nerfs come, so be it, i will just have to work harder to achieve what i can do now. and i assure you i will. but you will never see me on the pvp forums whining about how overpowered another class is/are/will be.

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shaidarlol
02.15.2012 , 03:11 PM | #315
Quote: Originally Posted by JohnSixteen View Post
Well I'm not sure how my own personal reason for rolling a class could be invalid, but hey I'll go with that.

Did you eat a pop tart this morning? If so, your reply is invalid due to the fact that pop tarts are op, which is the only reason to eat one.
ugh, my post to yours was completely showing the absurdity of some of the claims ppl make.
as in i'm being sarcastic and nothing more.

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Jabtiz
02.15.2012 , 03:11 PM | #316
Quote: Originally Posted by JohnSixteen View Post
Well I'm not sure how my own personal reason for rolling a class could be invalid, but hey I'll go with that.

Did you eat a pop tart this morning? If so, your reply is invalid due to the fact that pop tarts are op, which is the only reason to eat one.

Pop tarts are weak. They got nerfed along time ago. Toaster Strudel is OP and in need of a nerf though.

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MMOgamer
02.15.2012 , 03:13 PM | #317
good post.

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ScipioAemilianus
02.15.2012 , 03:14 PM | #318
Quote: Originally Posted by Celebrus View Post
Roughly translated: I enjoy having an advantage over other players, then rubbing that blatant advantage in their face, then I enjoy calling them ridiculous when they ask for my advatange to be taken away because I couldn't function without it but rather than admitting that I will call them "bads" because my vocabulary is limited.

Sorcs/sages will get tuned, just like ops did, and yes, the op "nerf" if you can even call it that, was needed.

you aremissing the point.. From what I see they don't need anythign quit yet,. as is most players are still feeling thier way around the class. let them get in thier skins before random nerfs begin. I am already seeing an increase in players abilities from the start.

Of course all classes need nerfed. no one is as good as I am therefore it must be an op class. C'mon lean adapt and overcome or go back to wow.

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shaidarlol
02.15.2012 , 03:15 PM | #319
Quote: Originally Posted by savionen View Post
If everyone but Sorcerers think they need to be nerfed, does everyone but Sorcerers need to learn to play? Seems like the exact same thing as before Operatives got nerfed.

Operative before they got nerfed: Operatives shouldn't be nerfed, it's fine that I 3-shot everyone. They just need to l2p. This is the only class I play.
do you think that the ppl who does not think sorcs are imbalanced actually posts?
how many ppl who actually believe things are balanced make posts about how balanced this game is?

let's just say sorcerers got nerfed to the ground, do think there will be posts about how balanced the game is? i guarantee you no one will say anything.

again, speaking as a sorcerer, i believe the operative nerf wasn't necessary, but i guess my voice is irelevant....

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Renlotho
02.15.2012 , 03:16 PM | #320
Quote: Originally Posted by shaidarlol View Post
actually the OP is completely implying that a the difference between a good and a bad sorc/sage is really small, as where the difference between a good and a bad say marauder for example is huge.
Funny I didn't get that at all, his posts imply the opposite that most are baddies, but even playing badly they are powerful due to the wide assortment of skills. Furthermore, a well played hybrid sorc is straight up OP. His original post was actually an assessment of abilities not an implication of the skill or lack thereof of players...