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Zarthorn
02.14.2012 , 11:50 AM | #1
To those that are stomping there feet over surge, fear not.

Power is still a great stat to have.

I just did a quick test on my Scoundrel of the new values 192 surge = 70% crit bonus, throw in underdog and you still have 100% critical on backblast, shoot first, tendon blast and flechette round.

Popping the trinket which puts me up to 411 surge would only give me an extra 9 % bonus.

Then we get to power, still stacking favorably, increases your damage gap across the board and does not DR as heavily as surge does, so I've been popping my adrenal and power trinket together instead for better results.

http://imageshack.us/f/703/screenshot2012021417344.jpg/

That screen shows how much damage increase stacking power gives, it effectively more than doubles my dps for the duration of the stim/trinket stack.

My gear is part champ/cent so obviously still some ways to go on that char but this was just to demonstrate that there is a silver lining to every cloud.....even if that cloud is currently overshadowed by healers now being insanely hard to kill.

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AndantePhist
02.14.2012 , 11:51 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
To those that are stomping there feet over surge, fear not.

Power is still a great stat to have.

I just did a quick test on my Scoundrel of the new values 192 surge = 70% crit bonus, throw in underdog and you still have 100% critical on backblast, shoot first, tendon blast and flechette round.

Popping the trinket which puts me up to 411 surge would only give me an extra 9 % bonus.

Then we get to power, still stacking favorably, increases your damage gap across the board and does not DR as heavily as surge does, so I've been popping my adrenal and power trinket together instead for better results.

http://imageshack.us/f/703/screenshot2012021417344.jpg/

That screen shows how much damage increase stacking power gives, it effectively more than doubles my dps for the duration of the stim/trinket stack.

My gear is part champ/cent so obviously still some ways to go on that char but this was just to demonstrate that there is a silver lining to every cloud.....even if that cloud is currently overshadowed by healers now being insanely hard to kill.
we already know that... too bad all power enhancements comes with either surge/alacrity/accuracy... so we're pretty much forced to stack surge if we want power.

bad itemization is bad
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Zarthorn
02.14.2012 , 11:54 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by AndantePhist View Post
we already know that... too bad all power enhancements comes with either surge/alacrity/accuracy... so we're pretty much forced to stack surge if we want power.

bad itemization is bad
Are you looking at the power amount of the screen or simply ranting?

1100+ power, I have hardly any alacrity or accuracy, when my stims/adrenals drop I still have 400ish power and 192 surge.

Again you should be mix and matching mods to get the most out of it, the surge nerf was done because of everyones laser beam focus on the stat, now you have to spread stats out a little better and think about what works and what doesn't.

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Corran
02.14.2012 , 11:56 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
Are you looking at the power amount of the screen or simply ranting?

1100+ power, I have hardly any alacrity or accuracy, when my stims/adrenals drop I still have 400ish power and 192 surge.

Again you should be mix and matching mods to get the most out of it, the surge nerf was done because of everyones laser beam focus on the stat, now you have to spread stats out a little better and think about what works and what doesn't.
POWER enhancements have surge, alacrity or accuracy. they come in NO OTHER COMBINATION

POWER mods drop a HUGE amount of your main stat for a piddling amount of power.

it's not the buff you think it is
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jdnyc
02.14.2012 , 11:57 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by zarthorn View Post
to those that are stomping there feet over surge, fear not.

Power is still a great stat to have.

I just did a quick test on my scoundrel of the new values 192 surge = 70% crit bonus, throw in underdog and you still have 100% critical on backblast, shoot first, tendon blast and flechette round.

Popping the trinket which puts me up to 411 surge would only give me an extra 9 % bonus.

Then we get to power, still stacking favorably, increases your damage gap across the board and does not dr as heavily as surge does, so i've been popping my adrenal and power trinket together instead for better results.

http://imageshack.us/f/703/screenshot2012021417344.jpg/

that screen shows how much damage increase stacking power gives, it effectively more than doubles my dps for the duration of the stim/trinket stack.

My gear is part champ/cent so obviously still some ways to go on that char but this was just to demonstrate that there is a silver lining to every cloud.....even if that cloud is currently overshadowed by healers now being insanely hard to kill.
thank you for posting this!!!!

+1

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Zarthorn
02.14.2012 , 12:01 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Corran View Post
POWER enhancements have surge, alacrity or accuracy. they come in NO OTHER COMBINATION

POWER mods drop a HUGE amount of your main stat for a piddling amount of power.

it's not the buff you think it is
What are you doing using level 49 purple enh/mods?

You should be looking at ripping mods out of pvp/raid gear (you know level 56 and level 58 mods?) to get the most bang for your buck.

Shop around, pick ones that work for you and not against you, pick a set of armor that you are going to mod up and with any duplicate piece you get from your abudancy of commendations....rip the damn mod out and stick it in yours to patch up weaknesses.

This is half the battle, you need to stop using level 49 purple mods because you are hurting only yourself by trying to exchange your champ mods with them when you should be pulling pieces that are like for like from raid and other pvp sets.

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Glor_
02.14.2012 , 12:01 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by jdnyc View Post
thank you for posting this!!!!

+1
He's wrong. But hey you're not the first people trying to compare power to surge when you cannot switch one from the other.

ITT : People failing at reading in game enhancements descriptions.

@Zarthorn : The failure is strong whithin your post.
A quand le prochain nerf agent secret?
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Zarthorn
02.14.2012 , 12:06 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Glor_ View Post
He's wrong. But hey you're not the first people trying to compare power to surge when you cannot switch one from the other.

ITT : People failing at reading in game enhancements descriptions.

@Zarthorn : The failure in your post is strong.
The Stupidity of people on this forum never fails to amaze me.

So you still have to take some surge on your gear, but with sensible gear balancing you can easily get an amount of surge without going too heavily into DR and plenty of power.

But what was the point I was trying to get home that you trolls failed to realise?

You now pop your Power Adrenal with your Power Trinket since they don't DR anywhere near as heavily as surge does now!

Grats you just gave yourself a nice big fat boost of power without "stacking" useless stats.

derp.

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Corran
02.14.2012 , 12:08 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
What are you doing using level 49 purple enh/mods?

You should be looking at ripping mods out of pvp/raid gear (you know level 56 and level 58 mods?) to get the most bang for your buck.

Shop around, pick ones that work for you and not against you, pick a set of armor that you are going to mod up and with any duplicate piece you get from your abudancy of commendations....rip the damn mod out and stick it in yours to patch up weaknesses.

This is half the battle, you need to stop using level 49 purple mods because you are hurting only yourself by trying to exchange your champ mods with them when you should be pulling pieces that are like for like from raid and other pvp sets.
it's universal, fool. dont talk if you dont have a clue. MODS with power instead of crit have lower MAIN STAT than the same level MOD with crit. ENHANCEMENTS only come in power/alacrity, power/accuracy, power/surge at ALL LEVELS

in my gear, a 350 power adrenal only gives me +70 bonus dmg. doesn't dr that bad he says...
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jdnyc
02.14.2012 , 12:11 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Corran View Post
it's universal, fool. dont talk if you dont have a clue. MODS with power instead of crit have lower MAIN STAT than the same level MOD with crit. ENHANCEMENTS only come in power/alacrity, power/accuracy, power/surge at ALL LEVELS

in my gear, a 350 power adrenal only gives me +70 bonus dmg. doesn't dr that bad he says...
You do know that power is consistent output right? So power won't be as high of a bonus as surge? Because you know...it's consistent.