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Azumio
02.19.2012 , 08:20 AM | #231
Quote: Originally Posted by mutharex View Post
Well ALL the FP and OP ARE in eh fleet, so....
Sure. And if I want to run Maelstrom Prison, I would have to sit in Fleet spamming:

"LFG Maelstrom Prison" for an hour or more before I give up. I might get 2 people if I'm lucky.

Instead of wanting to do Maelstrom, and being on Balmorra questing and looking at chat and seeing:

"LFG Maelstrom Prison" globally.

Now I can quest, while getting a group for a Flashpoint.

I shouldn't have to explain this to you, Mutharex. I know you are smarter than defending this very obvious, very stupid (Let's be honest, that's what it is) oversight.

And this is simple, simple stuff. But then, they left out customizable UI.

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Cormanthor
02.19.2012 , 08:21 AM | #232
Quote: Originally Posted by Catch_TwentyTwo View Post
OP gives facts, you give "a feeling..."

Facts > feelings any day
I have posted BW own server statistics showing a downward trend. Go look for it as it is only a couple pages back.

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Mysquine
02.19.2012 , 08:22 AM | #233
Quote: Originally Posted by SamuraBob_Fl View Post
That kind of cuts both ways though...

I mean, it's possible that people are leaving lower pop servers for higher pop ones.

And, of course, there's absolutely no proof that the game is "failing" outside of forum posters making noise, and I don't really consider that reliable at all.
It might not be to failing - point taken, but its starting to show a decline. Guilds have been falling apart on my server, people have been quitting or resubbing when new content comes out, like I've been saying - some servers are benefiting others are sadly going into the ground.

People might be re rolling to higher servers, might be the case - but there's still a population decline.

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Catch_TwentyTwo
02.19.2012 , 08:23 AM | #234
Quote: Originally Posted by Cormanthor View Post
I have posted BW own server statistics showing a downward trend. Go look for it as it is only a couple pages back.
BW don't publish this information, so how is that possible!

(Unless I missed a major BW policy change)
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mutharex
02.19.2012 , 08:23 AM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by Azumio View Post
Sure. And if I want to run Maelstrom Prison, I would have to sit in Fleet spamming:

"LFG Maelstrom Prison" for an hour or more before I give up. I might get 2 people if I'm lucky.

Instead of wanting to do Maelstrom, and being on Balmorra questing and looking at chat and seeing:

"LFG Maelstrom Prison" globally.

Now I can quest, while getting a group for a Flashpoint.

I shouldn't have to explain this to you, Mutharex. I know you are smarter than defending this very obvious, very stupid (Let's be honest, that's what it is) oversight.

And this is simple, simple stuff. But then, they left out customizable UI.
no one said that the game can't be improved or needs to be improved, could surely do with a customisable UI and a better LFG tool, but the lack of those things really justify all the HATE? chill guys, anyway off playing anyone who wants to keep insulting me can do it through private message lol

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Mysquine
02.19.2012 , 08:24 AM | #236
Quote: Originally Posted by mutharex View Post
So why don't you go on and post some SUGGESTIONS instead of posting over and over that TEH GAME IS DIEIEIEIEIEIENG?
anyway, finished crafting so back to play. you should try it too, every now and then
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Cormanthor
02.19.2012 , 08:26 AM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by Catch_TwentyTwo View Post
BW don't publish this information, so how is that possible!

(Unless I missed a major BW policy change)
Errr, sorry about that, you are correct.

This site is what I was referencing.

http://www.torstatus.net/scepter-of-...ragnos/week/7d

Go through the options and you can see the decline. I would have argue against the drop 2 weeks ago but this last week has been really harsh on my server. 150+ in fleet to 40-50. Hard to resub when no one is around.

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SamuraBob_Fl
02.19.2012 , 08:27 AM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by Mysquine View Post
It might not be to failing - point taken, but its starting to show a decline. Guilds have been falling apart on my server, people have been quitting or resubbing when new content comes out, like I've been saying - some servers are benefiting others are sadly going into the ground.

People might be re rolling to higher servers, might be the case - but there's still a population decline.
I'm seeing growth, you're seeing decline, there's no way to say anything meaningful about whether the game as a whole is growing or shrinking.
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Catch_TwentyTwo
02.19.2012 , 08:29 AM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by Cormanthor View Post
Errr, sorry about that, you are correct.

This site is what I was referencing.

http://www.torstatus.net/scepter-of-...ragnos/week/7d

Go through the options and you can see the decline. I would have argue against the drop 2 weeks ago but this last week has been really harsh on my server. 150+ in fleet to 40-50. Hard to resub when no one is around.
I think the perpectuated myth that Torstatus.net is 100% reliable is all I need to know. Sure, it's good work, but it has no baselines, due to the fact that Bioware may well have moved the goalposts.

Anyhaw, I'm not arguing one way or the other, but I personally do not believe, based on my own observations, that there has been a massive decline. Certainly not in the orders of magnitude that the link you give tries to imply.
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Cormanthor
02.19.2012 , 08:30 AM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by SamuraBob_Fl View Post
I'm seeing growth, you're seeing decline, there's no way to say anything meaningful about whether the game as a whole is growing or shrinking.
A general way of looking at it is the server list in game. There used to be quite a few heavy populated servers for Europe and it is now down to 1-2. Likewise, lightly populated servers did not exsist and now there is a lot of them.

There is a decline, no denying that, how big is up for debate. See what happens in the next week when resubs kick/do not kick in.
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