Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

@Taroen

I just perused some of your posts.

You're wrong a lot of things.

It really comes down that despite calling everyone else whiners, you're easily the biggest whiner in this game. Your points are generally wrong, and then when someone points it out you whine that "all they do is point out that your statements are false, how boring"(direct quote from you btw).

As far as nerfing content - content was nerfed before LFD and after. Content was also incresed in difficulty before/after.

the Luck of the Draw buff did not work the first 3-4 months of Cataclysm for example so all the whiners like you complaining did not realize the content was not nerfed for LFD.

The simple unavoidable fact is this - in WoW the challenging stuff is not the 5-man content, very little of that ever was hard. The challenging content is the 10man heroic raids.

You CANT LFD for regular raids in WoW(The lfr is a nerfed version that drops lesser gear).

You are required to get a server-side group to do regular/heroic raiding.

You only hate this because you clearly are one of the people who have the time to focus on playing the game in exclusion to other activities.

Even if you are correct that it is people of lesser skill who are not good enough to do the content and so people dont want them in their server-side groups, or they can only do it with a Luck of the Draw type buff....So what....why do you care so much if people get to experience content. There is in WoW and there will be in swtoro content that is still only doable by server-side groups without any buffs.

You may or may not be this - but based on your posts you come off as a whiner who just wants to have a higher gear score than most people and so don't want anyone else to be able to do content that you are capable of doing without an LFD tool.

It can't be about forcing you to use the tool since you wont be.

It can't be about "nerfed" content as you contend in a few of your posts since the most challenging content has not been nerfed in WoW and is not even doable with the LFD tools provided.

It can't be the mythical "community" breaking argument since anyone who played when there was Barrens Chat or has ever spent an hour in WoW and inevitably noticed 100 ppl spamming trade with A NAL whatever.

It seems like it can only be you being a big giant baby who wants to have a big gear score so you can feel superior.

LFD makes finding groups faster for people who choose to use it. For casual players it allows us not to have to time-sink finding a group spamming chat channels.

In WoW at peak hours it takes less than 5 minutes to find a group using LFD if you're a dps. Everone has see people in THIS came spend hour+ trying to find a group spamming channels. 5 minutes is faster.

You also are not up-to-date on the tools WoW used. It is not just a random queue finder anymore. There are ways to add x-server friends and they are implementing an newer, updated battle tag system.

So not only are you whining, you are whining about something you do not even understand

People that are too stupid to figure out how to connect with other players for grouping are just smart enough to run that content with zero problems. Theres a contradiction in there somewhere.

And its not speculation. There's a mountain of observable evidence to reference, its just not wise to bring it up when you have an agenda to push and that evidence runs counter to it.

Whatever... I'm off to play the game instead of the forums... Have fun all.

Think I might go run a flashpoint or two... =P

As far as i recall, you get locked out of kicking if you abuse it.

I don't abuse it, so I never have problems kicking someone who actually deserves it...

No, I've debunked your one attempt, showing how it's based on fallacious logic. Were you going to just pretend you've defended it, or were you actually going to try and defend it?

edit: clearly you're going to just pretend that you've defended it.

I haven't played WoW in years. Cross-server, random didn't suck for me. I had no issues and if it hadn't been for the tool I probably would have quit WoW sooner.

I literally cannot remember any real negative experience using the tool in WoW. I'm sure there were some but my overwhelming experience was positive.

How in the hell did you guys have such a bad time with it? Well, it is actually clear from your nonsense. Lowest common denominator indeed.

Since you just keep repeating "It Sucks. It Sucks." without anything to back up your POV, I'll leave you alone now. When they do add x-server, give it a try. Don't get all mad and quit. You'll find that it works and isn't the 'monster' you make it out to be.

Again, the counter-argument I'd call him what he is but that would ironically be a reportable offense so lets just say when they're last argument is logically met they turn to inflammatory and insulting posts.

Especially this poster.

Pool of players might increase but the Tank and Healer pools will not as those two classes are less played by folks! Me personally I will never run a pug on my Consular Sage (healer) as I have pick of the litter on who i can be a "SNOOP" to when it comes to groups, I did this in FFXI, WoW, and will likely do so here to! As far as dps goes I wont have a problem there as i have a 150+ active member guild with on average during peek times with 40 or more on.

What I'm saying if I feel this way as a healer , then others surly are going to follow suit unless BW adds sometype of reward system for tanks/healers to que and that comes up to bring forth another problem, "DPS WILL FEEL CHEATED"!

@whatshisface

You're wrong on everything and your post is a wall of pointless whiney name-calling.

If already said that we need much better options for group creation. I simply oppose random cross-server crap. There are far better options.

This ^

I always found what you get out of random groups is what you put in. I typically start with a "Hey. Everyone been here before?" Make sure people know the fights. Explain them if they don't. Drop a table/feast/etc (in WOW). Things like that. If you are nice and social the likelihood of things going wrong greatly decreases. Then again that can be said for any group in a MMO.