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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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MalignX
02.13.2012 , 09:43 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by boobaffet View Post
nah the side effect is people never leaving the main town and dumbed down content
Oh, that must be why WoW died and they had to shut the doors.
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terminova
02.13.2012 , 09:44 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe View Post
Actually convenient and easy is what the genre is about NOW. If you dont like it maybe main stream mmo's are not YOUR cup of tea!

WoW ruined? lets see yes they lost some subs.. down to 10.2 million.. Thats what.. about 9 million more players than swtor has?.. WoW still holds the record for most successful mmo on the market. thats a fact recorded in the Guinness book! In one month sales for cata was 4.7 million for a expansion to game that was already old! lets see thats 2 million more sales than swtor had for a new release....
You know if i was running a game company i would love for my game to be as ruined as world of warcraft is!
Let's see, a MMO that has been out for 7 years has more subscribers than one that's been out for 2 months. That's to be expected.

Let's see, they had a sub base of over 10 million players when Cataclysm released. 4.7 upgrading to Cataclysm is a bit underwhelming considering their sub-base was claimed to be over 12 million at the time, I believe.

Right now, WoW is a watered down version of what it used to be and lost, from my understanding, about 2 million players and is still losing players. Also, a lot of players stuck with WoW all those years because there wasn't anything else really worth leaving all their time and effort behind for.

One can hold a bunch of world records, but that's past accomplishments not current reality. Sure, WoW is still the biggest game on the market, but other games are chipping away.

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Filipebar
02.13.2012 , 09:45 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by MalignX View Post
Oh, that must be why WoW died and they had to shut the doors.
No I believe thats why along with the rediculous LFR why they are leaking subscriptions slowly but surely.
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Nitewolfe
02.13.2012 , 09:45 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
You know why everyone was running it? It wasnt for what they made it for. Blizzard made LFR so that all players could see the content.

The reason people ran it was

1. Elite guilds ran it 15-20 times in the first week to gear up their mains for world progression
2. People ran it to get gear that was better than T11 heroic gear while having to put in zero effort

The experiment of LFR failed for its intended purpose. Blizzard not wanting to admit it was a failure called it a success because everyone was running it.
Pure speculation.
Zero effort.. last time i used the lfr we still had to kill mobs to get loot. Did i miss the patch that gave you loot when you zoned in?.. No i didnt because there was no such patch.
Content still had to be completed to gain the loot so effort is required!

Funny how some one with zero numbers to back them up can call a company that has cold hard facts in numbers a failure!

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Damarog
02.13.2012 , 09:45 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by boobaffet View Post
nah the side effect is people never leaving the main town and dumbed down content
How is dumbed down content an effect of LFG Queue? That's a developers choice not an automated grouping system. The only effect here is people never leaving their main city....which generally happens when level cap is met with or without. This game doesn't even have LFG and max players just sit in fleet all day.
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MalignX
02.13.2012 , 09:46 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Filipebar View Post
No I believe thats why along with the rediculous LFR why they are leaking subscriptions slowly but surely.
Yup, 10 million people and dwindling by the second. I'm sure they'd miss that 500k of people ragequitting over LFG.
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Nitewolfe
02.13.2012 , 09:46 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by harpuax View Post
Why does it have to que you? Why can't I just look at a list of people who want to run and grab them? A que makes it feel like MW or some other FPS.
because the number of people that are willing to form the group is to small. A match making system takes that away!

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Arasys
02.13.2012 , 09:49 PM | #58
LFD tool may seem like a very useful tool but in my opinion it really kills the "server culture" in a sense. Before X-server system in WoW, guild members mostly went to instances together, in fact during vanilla Wow, way before Tier 1 set and Molten Core content, people were actually looking for guilds with lots of people who are looking for groups to get T0 set pieces and to level up faster.

After Xtransfer, believe me or not but both servers I played ( Nathrezim and Dethecus ) started dying and a lot of guilds actually started to transfer to other servers.

I understand SWTOR's map is almost "too" big for many people, and that leads to low population ~ LFG problem in general. But if Bioware comes up with this system, I don't think devs can easily solve the Low population problem across leveling areas.

There's also a very important fact that many ex-Wow players are still looking for something very similar because change bothers a lot of people at the beginning.

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Vlaxitov
02.13.2012 , 09:49 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by MalignX View Post
10 Million people playing wow is a horrible side effect of LFG.
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MajikMyst
02.13.2012 , 09:50 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by terminova View Post
Let's see, a MMO that has been out for 7 years has more subscribers than one that's been out for 2 months. That's to be expected.

Let's see, they had a sub base of over 10 million players when Cataclysm released. 4.7 upgrading to Cataclysm is a bit underwhelming considering their sub-base was claimed to be over 12 million at the time, I believe.

Right now, WoW is a watered down version of what it used to be and lost, from my understanding, about 2 million players and is still losing players. Also, a lot of players stuck with WoW all those years because there wasn't anything else really worth leaving all their time and effort behind for.

One can hold a bunch of world records, but that's past accomplishments not current reality. Sure, WoW is still the biggest game on the market, but other games are chipping away.
A quick fact add to that.. You can still buy the Collectors Edition of Cataclysm in some stores.. Fry's has it for $40.00.. They still have 2 boxes at that store.. Some of the Game Stops in my area still have one or two copies laying around..
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