Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

Yeah - right.

Ever played on a PvP (or a bigger PvE) server in TBC/Classic? People were acting like freaking ANIMALS back then, too. It's the nature of the beast; the nature of the internet. The community was already broken before the LFG-tool was implemented.

Because two days later noone is going to remember the name of the guy you ranted about in general chat. If they even pay attention in the first place ... That's community for you. People have always and will always get away with it.

Maybe gaming or the internet just isn't for you if you have such a thin skin.

Premise: Given the example throughput of single server queues for servers A, B and C (4, 3 and 2 per hour, respectively).

How is that false? What exactly, is the mistake in that premise?


No if there was a 20 minute average time to form groups, it would take 3 hours to form 9 groups.

No, I've debunked the ones that have been claimed (both the math, and the supposed objective reasons); even Vlaxitov admits that now. I've not ignored any of them that I'm aware of.


Which ones do you think I've ignored?

My biggest issue with a FPfinder or Opsfinder tool is there's no accountability for a player's actions unless it's same-server. Delinquents can annonymously ninja, blatantly blast through mobs like they're OP soloing while getting their rocks off wiping everyone, or simply rage quit - and know they'll get away with it. Nothings flips a player's off switch like being caught in random drive-by spin cycles. Especially those new to the game.

True this can happen with or without a FP/Opsfinder tool. But at least if perps are on the same server as the party they'll have to answer to the community. And community definitely exists in this game. I've seen it happen to a few divas already and watched them leave Nihilus because they essentially incarcerated themselves with a bad reputation. Our server is pretty tight in that respect, and that's a good thing imho.

I think once the population imbalance issue is resolved a same-server FP/Opsfinder would be of great benefit for those not on a guild's A-team. Would also make for a killer recruiting tool. Then perhaps after that system is solidified maybe put one in for cross server so those who want to do it can. I just feel that X-server should not be the first - and definitely not the only - way random queueing happens.

There you go making the same mistake again. Average wait time divided by 60 does NOT equal the number of groups formed in 1 hr.

time t divided by the number of groups formed in time t (which is a given, it's part of the premise) is the average amount of time for each group to form; Individual wait time is directly proportional to that...

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we're on page 14.

I see it as page 54

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