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I spend more time fighting the targeting UI than I do fighting opponents

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I spend more time fighting the targeting UI than I do fighting opponents

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ihyln
03.02.2012 , 02:29 PM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Hebrewz View Post
all i get from reading this thread is that people are remarkably spoiled by WoW.


as a healer, it's not difficult to figure out who has the huttball. There's a giant purple or yellow beam shooting out of their head, and if you have nameplates turned on, right in the center of that beam is a name. you select the proper name from your raidframe, and you push your heal hotkey.

not particularly rocket surgery, if you ask me.

those asking for mouseovers? aggro indicators? target of target? these are all nice things that we wish we had, sure, but DEMANDING them? come on. all of those are quality of life issues that are not truly NEEDED at all.
Yeah how DARE they ask for features that should be in a game shipped in 2011? The nerve of these cretins to expect tab targetting to work like every other game before it like DAOC, Warhammer, and WoW! We should be happy to fight the UI to enjoy the game without frustration we would never know the feeling of enjoyment! I'm with ya 100%!

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GreymaneAlpha
03.02.2012 , 02:36 PM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by ihyln View Post
Yeah how DARE they ask for features that should be in a game shipped in 2011? The nerve of these cretins to expect tab targetting to work like every other game before it like DAOC, Warhammer, and WoW! We should be happy to fight the UI to enjoy the game without frustration we would never know the feeling of enjoyment! I'm with ya 100%!
How dare we ask for the ability to easily target someone that has the ball instead of having to try to squint to read their names when 8 people are running in a little cluster throwing off tons of particle effects everywhere, and that person might actually have their name set to be something like "Gladiator Insanely-awkward Unreadable-name"!

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vortexdr
03.02.2012 , 02:41 PM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Hebrewz View Post
all i get from reading this thread is that people are remarkably spoiled by WoW.


as a healer, it's not difficult to figure out who has the huttball. There's a giant purple or yellow beam shooting out of their head, and if you have nameplates turned on, right in the center of that beam is a name. you select the proper name from your raidframe, and you push your heal hotkey.

not particularly rocket surgery, if you ask me.

those asking for mouseovers? aggro indicators? target of target? these are all nice things that we wish we had, sure, but DEMANDING them? come on. all of those are quality of life issues that are not truly NEEDED at all.
LOL ****...yeah its so acceptable to have fail targeting, no /roll, no combat logs and a vast lack of such basic features.

Hebrew huh? With a name like that it says it all... damm Zionist.

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Spootybeaver
03.02.2012 , 03:06 PM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
/Click raid frame.

/press bound key on keyboard.

Why in God's name would you be trying to click on people in the game field to heal them? That's what raid frames are for...

Same thing with cycling friendly targets.

Why in the world would you be cycling through targets to heal?

One more time.

/Click raid frame.

/press bound key on keyboard.
You have a point. Healing is not impossible in this game right now, but mouse-over targeting would be a big quality of life upgrade IMHO.
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GreymaneAlpha
03.02.2012 , 04:18 PM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by Spootybeaver View Post
You have a point. Healing is not impossible in this game right now, but mouse-over targeting would be a big quality of life upgrade IMHO.
Not impossible, just slow, frustrating, and awkward.

I will never understand people that think improving the UI is a bad thing. The goal is to play the game, not play against the UI. When the UI is seamless and does what you want it to, the overall skillcap of the game INCREASES. In PvP, most noticeably, but in PvE too. A better UI allows developers to make content that's harder, that requires better reaction time and faster target switching and greater situational awareness. That's not possible in the game today, because players are too limited by the awful UI and the terrible character responsiveness.

I mean...can you imagine doing hard mode Lich King in WoW with this UI, this targeting system, and this level of game responsiveness? It would be completely impossible.

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RabidPopcorn
03.02.2012 , 06:40 PM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Hebrewz View Post
all i get from reading this thread is that people are remarkably spoiled by WoW.


as a healer, it's not difficult to figure out who has the huttball. There's a giant purple or yellow beam shooting out of their head, and if you have nameplates turned on, right in the center of that beam is a name. you select the proper name from your raidframe, and you push your heal hotkey.

not particularly rocket surgery, if you ask me.

those asking for mouseovers? aggro indicators? target of target? these are all nice things that we wish we had, sure, but DEMANDING them? come on. all of those are quality of life issues that are not truly NEEDED at all.
Would it hurt you so much if BioWare included an 'advanced UI' option for those who like it? Then we'd have 2 UIs, 1 for people that like proper tab-targeting, and 1 for people like you. Solved - more choices benefits everyone.

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buffysithslayer
03.02.2012 , 10:22 PM | #147
I've never played PVP and I'm struggling with the targeting system. I've only just started playing this game, it's my first ever MMO. I mostly play games on my xbox, but have played some on the computer. The targeting system and camera controls are absolute crap!!! I kill one guy, go to get the next and I can't do half the attacks cause I'm not close enough. Every other game I've played would move closer to him, or actually allow me to move closer to the target. This game, I run to him with the arrow keys, get to the right place, then I'm 10 metres away instantly, or just cannot manouver to the enemy. I''ve never played a game where the attack and movement were so uncoordinated. Perhaps its cause its my first MMO, but surely it shouldn't be this hard??? I have played other PC games with keyboard controls, all of which were easy to move and attack. I just cannot seem to get in range to attack without up to 30secs of movement adjustment, or only using ranged force attacks. I'm a jedi with a lightsabre, it would be great if I could actually use it sometimes. And the tab is useless. It keeps targeting enemies in other groups, not attacking me, when there are up to 5 people trying to kill me. I keep dying because it takes me so long to target, move to then attack the right guy. Driving me insane!!!

If anyone has some help or suggestions, that would be great. I heard that this was tough for new MMO players, with no tutorial or anything, but I've played heaps of other games, RPGs included, and this game is just so hard to play I'm ready to give up. Really frustrated, cause I was so looking forward to this game, and I really want to love it

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Affics
03.02.2012 , 10:27 PM | #148
As a healer i'm fine with raid frames. Cant see any problem.
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RabidPopcorn
03.02.2012 , 10:45 PM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by Affics View Post
As a healer i'm fine with raid frames. Cant see any problem.
It is tolerable to the extent that players can still complete end-game operations; but beyond that it could use a lot of improvement so players don't have to get annoyed every second they interact with targeting.

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izadar
03.02.2012 , 10:47 PM | #150
Trying to target people in warzones to heal is a nightmare...especially in Hutball..wow super frustrating at times. And raid frames suck too. Please fix the targeting system in this game. Its freaking 2012 already. There are better targeting systems on my iPad app games ..than in swtor.