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Loot table is totally messed up!


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FleshMauler
02.12.2012 , 03:57 PM | #11
I've run BT countless time and every time I was there I got ALL + aim gear (I'm a sorc), from every boss, and never got the inq bracers drop at the end (until yesterday, all the other gear that dropped was still +aim though).

That being said, I feel your pain everyone, but gear is meant to be hard to get. Not getting it makes you look forward to it in the future and seperates the gamer from a person who wants everything now.

Also you can get these peices, for sure, eventually, by gathering tokens. Its a *****, likley you'll spend 3 weeks gathering tokens and after you spend them you'll see that peice drop and win it on a greed roll anyways. But it is an option

The only other way that you should get gear is through crafting... which also takes time to farm stuff and/or gold. Unfortunantly crafting is broken and everything you can make through it sucks badly (at least for artifice).

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Irenicus_Jon
02.12.2012 , 05:24 PM | #12
My merc friend in my guild saq the first pair of pants after his 17th Mentor kill.
My sorc friend has done about 16 hm flashpoints and just now saw his first inquisitor gear drop.

I'm a sniper and I collected my Columni gear in more or less a week of doinh hm flashpoints.

So yeah, from my perspective something feels iffy.

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Slurmez
02.12.2012 , 05:28 PM | #13
In warhammer online I ran TOVL about 100 times and never saw the chest peice drop from the last boss once even though it was supposed to be on a 25% drop chance. RNG is a *****

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EternalFury
02.12.2012 , 05:44 PM | #14
The loot table is fine. It's working as intended. Loot you don't like, sell. Loot you want, buy. That's the whole reason for the way they do it.

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Barleigh
02.12.2012 , 06:01 PM | #15
Running 8 man hard modes. Our 2 troopers have full rakata. My trooper/heavy armor companion has rakata. I however, have had rakata boots drop once for my sage.

I mean, I have fun with these raids, but it's to the point where we started selling the trooper rakata gear to merchants, it has dropped from every boss for us for the past 3 weeks.

I understand random is random, but I wish there would be some sort of smart random where we get loot that *someone* can use.

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ViperI
02.13.2012 , 03:29 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by EternalFury View Post
The loot table is fine. It's working as intended. Loot you don't like, sell. Loot you want, buy. That's the whole reason for the way they do it.
Huh? That makes no sense. Unassembled Columi tokens are BOP, you can't buy/sell them. I've run groups through these flashpoints and got Columi drops for a class that isn't even present in the group. My companions have more Columi items than some people's mains because of this.
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Cryfor
02.13.2012 , 04:49 AM | #17
Run HM ops, there is no destined loot -> win

and why ppl complain about loottables, i mean - they are around in every other MMO, in EVERY other MMO some ppl need to run 100x an instance to get their piece. It has always been the same - making the tokens drop for each class with a 100% chance, there is no point in going in there more than once. So how get the players to repeat the content? right, dont make 100% drop chances.

So what?

No need for any bugfixes.

And that in normal mode ops, loot is destined from the game -> working as intended

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Niddhog
02.13.2012 , 08:05 AM | #18
Eh? Random loot is random. Either end the whole charade of drops in the first place and move it all to the new pvp system (just gain more comms, use comms to buy gear) OR do a smart loot system.

By smart loot I mean the game looks at party composition and adjusts accordingly. No trooper/BH in group? No Trooper/BH gear in loot table. The group is half consulars? Bump up drop % of consular gear, etc. We ran with one JK in our last HM EV clear. The next day we ran a HH. Yeah that one JK got damn near full rakata gear in 2 runs. Random loot is random......

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pipda
02.13.2012 , 08:12 AM | #19
How sure are you that the RNG is really all that RNG?

It is supposed to by design but look at all the other bugs. There could be another bug with the loot system as well. On our end we have no way to prove or validate it in this case. You could kill a single boss 1000 times and get the same item. That still isn't a sign there is a bug since its RNG. We will never know...perhaps it isn't a bug, just bad luck. We would never know there was a bug unless the Devs announce it in this case.

This is TOR, take nothing at face value. If you think there is a bug, they may just be one.

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Valdrane
02.13.2012 , 08:47 AM | #20
I'm sorry, but I do not understand why anyone is complaining. This type of loot dropping system is nothing new to MMOs, the way it is distributed is a tad flawed, but how it drops is nothing new. Each piece has a percentage drop rate for EACH boss kill, that means that every time a boss i skilled, piece x has a 12% chance to drop each time.

In HM Fps, only 1 token drops, and that is off an end boss, in operations each boss drops tokens, sometimes it drops the same token twice sometimes it's different tokens.

From what it sounds like, most of you want fast and easy loot. Well hate to break it to you, PvE is not the way to go for fast and easy loot, you can only run ops 4 times a week and HM FPs once a day. You want almost instant gratification, go PvP.

Stop whining here every time you don't get exactly what you want. It took me over a month to get my entire set, while others got it in a week. That is just the way it works.