Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

I find it really funny how the Anti-LFD-People are trying to come up with some sort of compromise that is supposed "satisfy everyone".

What you fail to realize is that we don't want a compromise. Well - at least I don't want it. I'm not sitting at a negotiating table here. I will not accept anything but the Cross-Server-LFG tool. Simple as that. Because everything else would be a setback. Like going from buying butter from the supermarket to having to make the butter yourself. And I will NOT accept that. The cat is out of the bag and buying the butter is the way to do it now.

I will NOT accept the merging of servers. It won't fix the problems for those who are leveling or those who have a weird work schedule.

I will NOT accept a global LFG channel. We can already have that right now by creating it ourselves. It also won't fix the problems for those who are leveling or those who have a weird work schedule.

I will NOT accept a Server-Only-LFG tool. Mainly because I want to have access to a bigger pool of players.

And don't even give me that "why are you playing an a MMO if you don't want to socialize / don't have the time"-bulls*it. I'll play the game however gosh darn way I please. I'm social enough in real life. I don't necessarily need it in my video game.

So it comes down to whether it's going to be your way (channel-spamming, whispering, /who) or my way (fully automated Cross-Server-LFG tool). And trust me on this one - it's going to be my way in the end. Simply because I'm the majority and because the majority is where the money is at.

Who said I am not social. In WOW the first thing I would do in a random group is drop a feast/table/etc and say "Hi, everyone. You all been here before?" If not I would make sure to explain to them how the fights went. You can still be social in a random group.

X-Server absolutely helps those on low pop servers gets groups. Not sure how you don't see that. It also helps more players see more content. that is fact based on the numbers from WOW. Why is that a bad thing again?

Seems I have to keep repeating this. Functionality doesn't create community. People do. Regardless of what functionality is in game it is on people to create community. LFG tools neither help or hinder that.

For those against x-server LFG tool you seriously need to get a better argument against and/or better spokespeople.

And this is why there is no choice but to use the LFD in WOW. You have top
use it to get your badges for your raid gear. If you don't use it you fall behind.

Because the QQ that will continue to happen starts demanding incentives for people to pug.

There you have it folks. The true colors finally comes out. I wonder why you even bother to take part in a discussion. I truly wish BioWare would just copy your entire account into /dev/null
Sad to say that wouldn't happen.

No, you can get geared just fine without those badges.

People choose to do use the tool because it's more convenient and it offers perks.

Even if you choose to use the tool, you're not forced to use it as a matchmaker. Most of my guildies don't, for example.

I don't think content nerfing was an LFD result. I think content nerfing happened out of natural progression. WoW was always about nerfing old content once new content came out. And if you played the latest WoW had to offer, it wasn't easy.

It got easier overtime once everyone got better gear on average.

My honest observation after years of WoW was that when new content came out, people in the LFD tool were generally cooperative because everyone was a noob at that point.

However, once more and more people got geared and figured out the strategies, the new content became more routine and soon the impatience sprung up.

I like how you only quoted that specific part. I wonder why YOU even bother to take part in a discussion if you're just going to go ahead and ignore the bigger half of my post (where I stated why I won't be satisfied with said compromises).

I'm not sure what your point is... you quote someone who's saying that they aren't interested in your faux compromises that aren't actually compromises. What exactly is the problem with that?

The content nerf was built into the ICC raid; they did it to the previous expansion raid content as well.

After a while, Blizzard nerfs stuff so that the LCD can get in and stomp around. They've come to the conclusion (and I agree) that having portions of the game that are forever only for the people who are "good enough" is a bad idea. That's why they've added an easy version of the raids with the lfr system.

Perhaps my facts 1 and 3 should have been 1, however incentives were not part of the initial patch from my recollection, I stand to be corrected though.

My timings are from an EU Server standpoint.


Actually it is a fact as far as WoW is confirmed. In the UK we have what is called the law of precedent (I believe it's in the US too) therefore I can safely state as a fact that LFD leads to nerfs, That doesn't mean that it will do in SWTOR however as the saying goes if it looks like a pear and it tastes like a pear, it probably is one.

I'm not against server LFD I just don't think it will work particularly well and as flashpoints will be my end game because I don't want to raid, I don't see why people should spoil my end game when there are alternatives.