Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

Your missing the point.. Nobody is claiming that an LFG tool will make the community different.. But it strips group leader's abilities to try and filter out as many bad apples as they can..

Nobody claimed it would make the community smarter or better or different.. But how exactly can you ask someone their raid experience or what stradegy they have used on a specific boss with the LFG system?? BEFORE they are invited to group... How exactly do you inspect their gear to see if they have the gear for the run you are about to do?? BEFORE they are invited to group?? An LFG system doesn't allow either of those.. So while an LFG system doesn't change the number of bad apples out there.. It does prevent me from trying to filter them out and not deal with them..

We need one. End of story.

I'm "ok" with not having one for now but as the game gets older it becomes more necessary. I don't want to spam chat all day just to get through a FP. That has never worked for me, nor does messaging people randomly. That's just not cool.

But you'd have a choice. That's the main highlight with the system. If you don't want to use it, you don't have to.

I think Blizzard's mistake was providing extra incentives for using the tool like badges or points or whatever. But if Bioware doesn't give extra incentive, just has the tool there for whoever wants to use it, I don't see the problem.

Plus I remember in WoW, there were still people looking for groups within trade channel when the instances was especially hard or they wanted to do a timed run and they wanted well-geared/skilled people to do it with.

They founded their own group when they wanted to and used the LFD tool at other times.

That has nothing to do with LFD though.

When LFD comes you can still do that.

LFD will just be another option.

For those say not in a guild.

Or playing at non peak hours where theres only like 5 people on in your guild.... or when your friends aren't playing or when they are busy doing their own thing.

For some reason people use arguements that suggest you have a wealth of guildmates and friends that will just drop what they are doing and run what you want to run when you want to run it.

Ummmm.....


Right!!!!

Judging alll

By your

Method

of creating

Groups!!!

very smart!!

Not everyone creates a group in that manner.. If that is how you create groups.. Then that is your problem..

Have a nice day..

And if a player is an idiot?

You've clearly mistunderstood the concept of FPs. Next time remember your picnic basket.

lol..

If you're not sure it's because you've played little else than WoW.

It comes down to accountability in server only groups.

When players are clearly not group players (ie. “Suck it TANK..... I'm gods gift to DPS..... L2Tank noob”... etc.....etc....) you have the ability to boot them and set them on ignore to never play with them again.

That's accountability and doesn’t allow for a degeneration of the player base.

With x-server grouping, there’s no accountability as it doesn’t matter if you’re the biggest a-hole the games ever spawned. There's a pool of players from other servers that won’t dry up regardless of how uncivil they act.

I have to agree with the OP that there is no reason to not have this tool.

But I want to also comment on some of the various responses that people posted. The first being that since WoW has it it must be bad. First off in WoW the tool, now that it has had time to exist, has not harmed guilds. If anything it has made them stronger. When Blizzard added the feature to WoW they actually had to bribe people to use the tool. They also made changes when using it to make it harder for people to use it to do random thievery. As people have pointed out, you run all the same risks using general chat to PuG Flashpoints. I will point out that Blizzard did wait to implement it until they had a mechanism to make it work across small groups of servers to deal with different server populations. I prefer in WoW like I do in SW:TOR to run instances with the guild, but if I am on when most are offline and I want to run instances, I like the tool in WoW.

I will somewhat agree with those that say that I would want to see more added to the game ahead of this. But these are things like get rid of the Donkey Kong/Super Mario brothers aspects of getting to Datacrons, more Flashpoints, more Operations, Chapter 4. Right now things like this are more important to me than this.

Despite taking that out of context, that unfairly characterizes us. I played SWG for ~7.5 years and I'm a huge advocate for an LFD tool, especially seeing how effectively it worked in other populated MMOs.

On another note, I completely agree that this should be in a coming update, sitting on the fleet spamming to find a group for a flashpoint is equally stupid and pointless. It wouldn't ruin any community as long as people are smart enough to bring friends into the que like in the current warzone system.