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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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ImperialSun
02.13.2012 , 10:07 AM | #571
Quote: Originally Posted by oursacrifice View Post
You realize it's been announced, right?
Depends on your interpretation.

For clarity, a full blown cross server LFD has NOT been announced.

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Introvertus
02.13.2012 , 10:07 AM | #572
Quote: Originally Posted by oursacrifice View Post
/ignore works in cross-server LFD tools as well (assuming they'll copy WoW's implementation)

So yeah, you're wrong. I was specifically asking for what's wrong with WoW's implementation of the LFD tool from a mechanics standpoint, and you jumped in touting accountability - which is a byproduct of playing with people, not a byproduct of a LFD tool.
You're right. It's a byproduct of playing with people. I formed plenty of groups in vanilla wow and met idiots who I later ignored. When the LFG tool came out, i only saw an increase in idiots because I had an increase in groups. The ratio of idiots:normal people stayed the same. I would have thought it mathematically obvious that whether you form a group with random people on your server, or not on your server, the chances of encountering a griefer are pretty much even, unless there are entire servers full of idiots that should be avoided.
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DarthKhaos
02.13.2012 , 10:07 AM | #573
Quote: Originally Posted by Introvertus View Post
2. my server has very few people who want to do HM
Could be they all don't like interacting with other people like you OR they know of your anti social ways and just don't want to run with you.

Looks like a control system error to me.
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Sporin
02.13.2012 , 10:08 AM | #574
Quote: Originally Posted by darkcerb View Post
do you really consider those less social then yourself dirtbags and lowlifes? really?

Would someone saying "hi" have made you all feel much better in your guild chat and or vent?

The hypocrisy is almost physically painful.
Well most "normal" people are friendly, polite, chatty.... So if your idea of being "less social" is rude, ignorant, greedy, impatient & hostile... Then yeah, it matters. REALLY!

And yes, saying "Hi" (which was a mere example) or any other friendliness would have been great. Your telling me you joined pugs, said nothing, needed on every roll & shouted "Faster!"?

The hypocrisy? Lol I won't even go there...
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Amiracle
02.13.2012 , 10:09 AM | #575
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Originally Posted by Introvertus
For the third and final time.

Other people have already said this to you so i'll say it in plain english

1. my server is low populated

2. my server has very few people who want to do HM

3. On a peak time, there will be maybe 3 or 4 people, max about 5 LFG to do HM. Most of those are DPS. I'm a tank, just so's you know, and I find it hard. I cant imagine what it must be like for DPSers.

4. I do PM people who I see LFG, if there ever are any. Usually there aren't, but on the occasions there are, I usually get a run out of it.

5. So we conclude, I get one run every... week? Out of every 5 2-3 hour sittings i spend trying everything I can to find a group, maybe one of those will in fact yield a good result. Then there's still the issue of actually finishing the run, which occasionally doesn't happen.

I'm sorry, but that just isnt enough for me. I don't pay for this game to do that. If it doesn't improve, I'll take my sub elsewhere. I want to be able to do at least 2 runs in the space of 3 hours or so. Is that too much to ask?

do you understand what I'm saying? Probably not because by the looks of things your comprehension of the English language is below average

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You are on a low pop server and instead of move to a high populated one or waiting for transfers you want Bio to create a tool just for you.

I understand exactly what you are saying. Me me me me me

And by your last statement I can see when people don't agree with you you jump to insulting people.

I could only imagine what you are like to group with.

Maybe you are the issue why you cannot find a group.......

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oursacrifice
02.13.2012 , 10:09 AM | #576
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
No... He's saying that it'll interfere with the largest means most people find NEW friends. I swore I explained this to you before. With a cross server system I can't add that really cool guy or good player to my friends list so that we can party up later on. This can't be put any simpler. Do you wish for me to post definitions of the words Friends and New for you?
Find those "really cool guys" in your server??

I see people all the time in WoW looking for a group to queue with. Those are CLEARLY the types of people that want to add others to their friends list. It's not a complicated process, it really isn't.

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DarthKhaos
02.13.2012 , 10:10 AM | #577
Quote: Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
Well most "normal" people are friendly, polite, chatty.... So if your idea of being "less social" is rude, ignorant, greedy, impatient & hostile... Then yeah, it matters. REALLY!

And yes, saying "Hi" (which was a mere example) or any other friendliness would have been great. Your telling me you joined pugs, said nothing, needed on every roll & shouted "Faster!"?

The hypocrisy? Lol I won't even go there...
They don't understand the concept of politeness or manners. That's why they behave the way they do.
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Introvertus
02.13.2012 , 10:10 AM | #578
Quote: Originally Posted by Amiracle View Post
You are on a low pop server and instead of move to a high populated one or waiting for transfers you want Bio to create a tool just for you.

I understand exactly what you are saying. Me me me me me

And by your last statement I can see when people don't agree with you you jump to insulting people.

I could only imagine what you are like to group with.

Maybe you are the issue why you cannot find a group.......
I didn't insult anybody. I made a blatant observation.

I'm not saying "me me me me" at all. I'm speaking for the thousands of others who are in my situation. I don't want Bio to create a tool "just for me". I want them to create one to enhance the game and make it easier to get a group = more fun.

Oh wait no, i'm sorry - it's my fault because I'm on a low pop server, rather than your awesome high pop server with uber players. Forgive me - I'm obviously not entitled to my own opinion, a view on this frankly, stupid debate and my sub is less important to Bioware than yours is.
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ferroz
02.13.2012 , 10:11 AM | #579
Quote: Originally Posted by Zhit View Post
The people that are against any type of LFG tool, cross server or not, can breathe a sigh of relief. There will be no LFG tool in the foreseeable future. Creating a cross server LFG tool will take some serious coding. Look at the game as it stands now. TOR in its current state took $200million+ and 5 years. Do you really think we will see a cross server LFG tool out of that development time anytime in the next year? Get realistic... There will be no LFG tool for a very, very long time.
Actually, a matchmaking system is really simple to write.

The only real technical hurdle is xserver; if they are working on that for pvp, that may be a solved problem in the near future.

but the matchmaking part is a dead simple UI with well defined algorithms, and has some of it's work already done with the pvp matchmaking system.

All in all, it's much simpler than dealing with some of the more esoteric bugs that are in the game.

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Vulgarr
02.13.2012 , 10:12 AM | #580
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
I do.

In wow, if I'm on a dps, I queue up and go do dailies. I usually get my dungeon queue to pop while I'm finishing up, and then after the dungeon I finish whatever dailies I want done for the day.

I've done that since it released. At that time, I was doing the tournament dailies, or the wintergrasp one. Back right after cata was released, I would do the tol barad dailies. More recently, I was doing the fire lands dailies.

Source?
i admit i did all of that stuff while in dungeon finder in wow while standing in stormwind when i wasnt just reading the troll chat in /2.

dailies in cataclysm were stupid, it took 15 minutes to do all the dailies in the magma front. and in lich king there was no reason to do more than one daily heroic once you were geared in justice gear which you could do in a day.

after lich king released i found myself logging in to do 15 minutes of dailies and a 30 minute dungeon (1hour most of the time because of griefers and bads) then logging out to play something else because my raids were scheduled on saturday nights. i got so bored that i leveled fishing 1 to 350 in grizzly hills trying to catch the damn turtle and finally got it after 15000 catches.

in cataclysm 15 minutes for dailies, geared up first week, lost interest in pve and did the broken pvp. got so bored and had no interest in the pandas gone wild expansion that i quit.

loving tor though. cant wait for mists of endor to be announced.