Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

Actually, pro-LFD people are the most ignorant when it comes to this.

Anti-LFD people are posting experiences, evidence, fears, solutions and scenarios that has an infinitely high possibility of happening.

While the pro-LFD people completely disregard it, by saying it's not "legitimate", because in their point of view, it's not.

Even when presented with logic.

Because they're delusional enough to think that it does do something?

Not really... I'm just pointing out that folks lie about it, not that they actually are able to inconvenience people.

In fact, it was after watching someone spend a week running an assassination attempt on a friend that I saw how utterly useless doing that sort of thing is.

well, that and repeatedly being trained by that enchanter from comps and having the guild leader ignore it.

Really?
Person X claims that person Y ninjalooted a rune. Did he? Or did he actually win the roll? Or did some other random person ninjaloot it?

Person X claims that person Y trained his group and stole a named. Did he? Or was person X's group tring to leapfrog person Y's group, pulled too many mobs and got themselves killed, and then Person Y's group cleared and pull the named that was in their camp?

To be honest, I have no interest in sorting through your drama, so I'm not willing to dig through a bunch of witness statements to find the truth. If someone causes me problems, I put them on ignore. Doing that, even with xserver lfd, I haven't run into more than a handful of problems, and they only happened once.

Seriously - explain this to me. How am I unsocial for wanting a Cross-Server-LFG tool? I don't know about you but I have enough social interaction in my (real) life as it is. I have a job (my coworkers), a girlfriend and my buddies for that. I don't necessarily need in a video game.

Why do you insist on calling everyone who doesn't like your idea of finding a group an anti-social, lonely, lazy jerk?

And how is it easier to actively send out a whisper every 2 minutes while standing in the fleet and checking /who instead of just queuing for a dungeon and doing whatever you want until the invite pops up?

To feel the other side try not grouping with anyone,. rolling on a low pop server... and rolling a DPS then spamming LFG in fellt like this.,. LFG Hammer and see how long it takes you then come back here and QQ about your bad decisions

And how is it easier to actively send out a whisper every 2 minutes while standing in the fleet and checking /who instead of just queuing for a dungeon and doing whatever you want until the invite pops up?

No sorry, a larger pool may be the same ratio at a basic level but it still means more groups. Assuming of course that very server is identical.

Was that not clear enough? Should I add more ellipses?

if your rep didnt matter then you wouldnt have brought up assassination attempts.

i have been playing mmos since everquest also and i know for a fact that /ignore and server rep did/does matter on all mmos unless they have a cross server LFD system.

it made my experiences more enjoyable because i used the /ignore tool.

were their people exploiting? sure, but did they do it in my groups? if they did they would get ignored and that would be the last time i had to deal with that person, ever. with a LFD system that luxury doesnt exist because you come across more people that need to be /ignored than you have space in the list.

my point still stands, id rather have the ability to hold people accountable by /ignoring them than i need an automated system that wont speed up anything.

More anecdotal "evidence" that is I'm guessing more truthful then mine?

Just so I'm still on the same page with the rules.

Punishing low pop servers and those not as social as you because you're terrified that the way that works for you might be challenged is exactly what I'm talking about when I argue with you and those like you.

You say get a group, get friends like everyone was handed "Socializing in games 101" and is perfectly fine to let others play times/habits dictate there own.

Sorry but that isn't the case anymore if it ever was mmo's have changed.

Calling their posts "evidence" is a real stretch

I'll agree that they're posting fears; that's 90% of what they're doing. They're unfounde fears.

They aren't posting solutions; nor are the scenarios they are posting all that probable.

It's not legitimate because it's a purely based on fear and opinion, not facts.

I await your logic.

Then why are you playing an MMO, a game genre built around a social experience?

Send out 3 whispers in 5 seconds then. Copy paste it, easy as that. Then you wait a few seconds for a response and you're done. Waiting for a queue that takes much, much, muuuch longer is a waste of time. Unless you actually do something on the side, which in WoW, no one actually does. Most turn their speakers on full, go eat/toilet/smoke/coffee/TV/whatever until they hear a pling and there we go.