Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

No sorry, a larger pool may be the same ratio at a basic level but it still means more groups. Assuming of course that very server is identical.

Was that not clear enough? Should I add more ellipses?

Actually, pro-LFD people are the most ignorant when it comes to this. Anti-LFD people are posting experiences, evidence, fears, solutions and scenarios that has an infinitely high possibility of happening. While the pro-LFD people completely disregard it, by saying it's not "legitimate", because in their point of view, it's not. Even when presented with logic.
If you're not willing to listen to our proof and evidence, why the hell do you expect anyone to listen to yours?

Well... That's the 2nd stage of changes...

...Or why do you think they have to add dual specs? So the differences between classes are minimal.

Because the LFD tool will not fix the problem...

...Unless the players themselves balance the roles...

...Or it's the 1st time you heard on a general chat: "What's the class most needed on parties?"

Obviously social players have been doing this since forever... Without the help of any tool...

...Are the solo players that are "forced to group" with solo characters the ones that saturate a given role because they refuse to adapt to the Community they are into.

Because I'd like to get a group in a short while instead of looking for multiple hours and not finding one.

I'd especially like to go off and do quests solo on someone, be social in mumble while doing so, and then be social in the group that forms automatically without me having to sit around in fleet.

eh, I'm social. I like to talk. I chat in lfd groups in wow all the time. You'd be surprised how often people will chat back if you actually make the effort, instead of just writing them off because "you'll never see them again" ...

so if you want to get groups very quickly best roll a tank or a healer then rather then wait for a LFD because a LFD will not sort this out.

hey.. I guess this is why I have 2 lvl 50 tanks so far in the game and why I don't have any problems with groups and don't want the LFD because I have sorted myself out a guild with people with similar interestes and rolled a class that people want.


To feel the other side try not grouping with anyone,. rolling on a low pop server... and rolling a DPS then spamming LFG in fellt like this.,. LFG Hammer and see how long it takes you then come back here and QQ about your bad decisions

Seriously - explain this to me. How am I unsocial for wanting a Cross-Server-LFG tool? I don't know about you but I have enough social interaction in my (real) life as it is. I have a job (my coworkers), a girlfriend and my buddies for that. I don't necessarily need it in a video game.

Why do you insist on calling everyone who doesn't like your idea of finding a group an anti-social, lonely, lazy jerk?

And how is it easier to actively send out a whisper every 2 minutes while standing in the fleet and checking /who instead of just queuing for a dungeon and doing whatever you want until the invite pops up?

It doesn't just depend on the sheer number of players available, it also depends on the amount of FP instances BW can keep running at the same time. And if you have played WoW as long as me, you will have seen the "Too many instances are currently running" error message when you try to enter a dungeon. It has of course lessened after LFD, but instead of giving you an error message it will add to more queue time.

It's a rather small concern, yes, but a concern nonetheless.

Mmmm... I think I don't follow your logic...

...You do realize that for the 4800 dpsers waiting for the 100 healers and tanks to finish aren't seeing an increase on the groups they enter into right?

Wow. 53 pages and the only legit reason I could find to stand against the huge ammounts of beneficial things a LFG system could bring to the game is something along the lines of:

"I'm a veteran SWG player and dislike anything that differs from classic SWG. I want to be punished and have huge repair bills and be forced to play one role and be elite at it because customisation is for idiots and ******* who can't play one role effectively. LFG will hurt the community because it makes the game like wow. Wow is for tards, and I don't like tards. Tards should go back to wow. If 90% of this community is tards, their subs are worth less than mine, because I am in an awesome guild and don't need a LFG tool, so good luck - rest of the community, I don't care about you, because my "community" that I love is a circle of self absorbed elitist *****s who don't need LFG, so why should it be in the game?"

I.e. about 2% of the entire SWTOR population.

Because at every step I have been completely open with the fact that I can count on one hand the amount of negative experiences had with lfg systems. My experiences have been far far more positive then negative.

I have had more positive then negative.

+ more then -

I can't be more plain. If you think I'm lieing then I throw that right back at you, I have no reason whatsoever to believe you jsut like I assume you have no reason to me, so why don't we drop all the anecdotal and just stick to the fact that should this be released by your own admition everyone would use it.

And then lets agree that's it's effect's can't be predicted or measured with hard facts unless the game suddenly emptys.

And that's all my time folks it's 2.34 am here on central east coast nsw aus.

If you want to keep arguing with me just go ahead and go to my post history I've had these conversations over and over again for days.