Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

Hmmm, guilds there must not be, join them you should! hmm?

(and yeah, LFG did break WoW, we never meet so many lowlifes & dirtbags, and that was only rarely, when there was only 4 guildies wanting to do some HCs late at night. We'd grab a 5th & /sigh, some don't even say "Hi" on joining, the funniest 1s are the "Faster!" gang, we would slow down more!).

What's the problem with the instant teleportation?? COME ON GUYS!! You already have it on PvP, just grow a pair!!

Maybe thats a question for the pro xsvr LFD crowd...

The only arguements I have seen thus far are:

"We just want it and it wont affect you if you don't use it" - This is not true, it will eventually affect everyone and force those that dont want it to use it or suffer the exact same problems that low pop server are experiencing now.

"Community doesnt exist" - depends on how and who you play the game with.

"This will give much needed diversity for PvE / PvP players" - It will give you no more diversity than you have in game already - the cost however will come at the expense of the community feel on a localised server basis and will also be felt on a more micro level with more ninja looting and general being a jerk that comes with the removal of any player accountability.

So maybe look back at the pro sides fallacious logic before critiscising those that are genuinely thinking of the games greater good?

In essence, the problem here is the pop on your own specific servers....if BW sorts this out then the need for xsvr LFD is negated...why demand a sledgehammer to crack a nut?

Driz

do you really consider those less social then yourself dirtbags and lowlifes? really?

Would someone saying "hi" have made you all feel much better in your guild chat and or vent?

The hypocrisy is almost physically painful.

Logically if you don't need the tool now you have a sound method of getting groups that you're happy with.

If that method is endangered with a cross server tool then it is only because people prefer to use it over your method.

So your argument becomes "Have fun my way or the high way, there can be no optional lfg tool"

And if it surprises you that people argue against that. Then I don't know what to tell you.

Keeping in mind that my belief and indeed experience of community in mmo's is found and developed within guilds if at all.

Sure you are. You remind me of a politician, claiming you want what's best for everybody when you're only really looking out for yourself. If I'm being overly cynical, I am an American who has a clue whats going on in my nation.

Explain what is wrong with WoW's implementation (MECHANIC-WISE) of the LFD system.

Don't QQ about people or the community because that's not what my comment was addressing. Be specific, don't just sit there and say "DOESN'T WERK!! LOLZ" - what is actually WRONG with it?

Well that's the point I was making, since FPs are more rare I savour the experience. Once the LFG comes in, it's just another way to grind for points and becomes less of an adventure.

But your arguement is a two way street...like I said, the introduction of a xsvr LFD will eventually force everyone to use it - whether they wanted to or not.

How is that NOT the pro crowd saying "Have fun my way or the high way"??? This is the stance that you guys are trying to force on everyone just to solve a problem with pop on your server....

That is the very definition of "play my way or the high way" and as its the pro crowsd that are demanding the mechanic is added....they are the catalyst for the "play it my way or the highway" way of thinking, no?

You cant have it both ways after all...

Driz

How so?

You have a method now I assume, what's wrong with it and why wouldn't there be others who would use it?

I assume guild runs, friends.

And if that's not correct aren't you admitting that in fact yes the majority would prefer to use a lfg tool?

Because people obviously don't like the current system they don't use it, even if it would help (allbeit no where near as much)