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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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ImperialSun
02.13.2012 , 06:44 AM | #391
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Sinistor View Post
Dude 10k internet points for you. You hit that nail squarely on it's head.

The nay-sayers seem to pine for a "Golden Age" of mmos, where (apparently) there was a thing called a "community".

Spoiler alert: that was then, this is now and now (ie; the 21st century) people want convenience. I'm willing to bet none of the nay-sayers grow their own vegetables or butcher their own meat. Why? Because it's frankly too damned inconvenient. Join the rest of us in the 21st century and embrace a LFD tool. And if you don't want to use it? News flash: you don't have to.

LFD tools are the way it is now. The vast majority of us dont want another job - we want a game.
But thats a redeundent arguement.

What you are saying is "we want a LFD because we cant be bothered to socialise in game and we dont care that our agenda will have a direct impact on those that choose not to use it"....that is not an attitude that supports the greater good or the long term health of this game.

I currently have no problems getting groups on my server, however if a McMMO xsvr LFD is implemented.....eventually I will be forced to use it, or suffer the same problems as those on low pop servers are now facing.

I say again, the pro arguement that "this will not affect you if you dont use it" is as redundent as the con arguement of "get a guild"...

For me personally, I fail to see why anyone would want to spend all of their game time looking at a single, fixed lobby screen with a few drop down boxes on it and a vote/kick button....rather than playing in an actual game woorld.

Driz

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Nemmar
02.13.2012 , 06:48 AM | #392
Lets be honest... people playing an MMORPG and saying they dont care to socialise are playing the wrong game.

Quote: Originally Posted by Vulgarr View Post

and this my friends is why many of you cant find groups and are begging for a cross server LFD. you have already made the mistake of ruining your reputation because you were used to being ***** in wow and thought you could do it here without repercussions.
That is a very good point, especially considering the people who come here saying how they want the feature and dont care about anyone else.

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ImperialSun
02.13.2012 , 06:53 AM | #393
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
Lets be honest... people playing an MMORPG and saying they dont care to socialise are playing the wrong game.
This...^^

Those individuals strike me as being an influx of gamers that originally came from hardcore twitch based FPS / PvP games and have gradually migrated over the MMORPG genre.

They are gradually dumbing down MMORPGs in order that they provide the same levels of immediate gratification that FPS games do, ala COD.

This is why we have demands for lobby screens and dual spec and this type of thing imo.

I personally hope that fashion goes full circle and actual MMORPGs become the norm once again rather than the current trend of MMORPG-Lites.

You only have to take pre CU SWG and compare it to NGE SWG for a damning example of this...the two games are barely comparable. One was a MMORPG...one was a WoW clone.

Driz

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Vulgarr
02.13.2012 , 06:53 AM | #394
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
Lets be honest... people playing an MMORPG and saying they dont care to socialise are playing the wrong game.
exactly.

until wow invented the cross server LFD tool and rift copied, (which are the only 2 MMOS that have it that i know of) MMOS relied heavily on the social aspects of the community. if you were a whiny kid that played bad and blamed others for your failure, you would be moderated by the community by /ignore and it limited the things you could do with a smaller pool of people that would put up with your drama.

i like the state the community is in now without LFD. accountability is worth more than catering to laziness.

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ImperialSun
02.13.2012 , 06:56 AM | #395
Quote: Originally Posted by Vulgarr View Post
exactly.

until wow invented the cross server LFD tool and rift copied, (which are the only 2 MMOS that have it that i know of) MMOS relied heavily on the social aspects of the community. if you were a whiny kid that played bad and blamed others for your failure, you would be moderated by the community by /ignore and it limited the things you could do with a smaller pool of people that would put up with your drama.

i like the state the community is in now without LFD. accountability is worth more than catering to laziness.
QFT...

Driz

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BCBull
02.13.2012 , 06:59 AM | #396
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
But thats a redeundent arguement.

What you are saying is "we want a LFD because we cant be bothered to socialise in game and we dont care that our agenda will have a direct impact on those that choose not to use it"....that is not an attitude that supports the greater good or the long term health of this game.

I currently have no problems getting groups on my server, however if a McMMO xsvr LFD is implemented.....eventually I will be forced to use it, or suffer the same problems as those on low pop servers are now facing.

I say again, the pro arguement that "this will not affect you if you dont use it" is as redundent as the con arguement of "get a guild"...

For me personally, I fail to see why anyone would want to spend all of their game time looking at a single, fixed lobby screen with a few drop down boxes on it and a vote/kick button....rather than playing in an actual game woorld.

Driz
Nice post OP. Mail this to BW.

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Tiralyon
02.13.2012 , 07:00 AM | #397
I said it yesterday and I'll say it again.

People are already getting upset about people needing gear for companions that would be a big upgrade for someone in their group. If a Cross-Server LFG tool is put in, what do you think will happen there? Do you think that kind of activity is going to slow down or just stop?

It will only get worse. It will create the same kind of attitude players have in Warcraft. "I'm not going to see you ever again, I'm needing that sword for transmog that is a huge upgrade for you."

The only people I have seen in this thread so far that want Cross-Server are those who never played an MMO before blizzard put theirs in. Those people have already ruined their reputation on their server, and are too lazy to change servers and try to be polite on the new one.

This is a social game, it's built into the foundation of the game with the social rank system, if you don't like that, this may not be the game for you. It is NOT a clone of warcraft or any other MMO. A LFG tool will only destroy the purpose of the social rank system if it is made Cross-Server, and the sense of a server community.

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face_hindu
02.13.2012 , 07:03 AM | #398
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiralyon View Post
People are already getting upset about people needing gear for companions that would be a big upgrade for someone in their group. If a Cross-Server LFG tool is put in, what do you think will happen there? Do you think that kind of activity is going to slow down or just stop?

It will only get worse. It will create the same kind of attitude players have in Warcraft. "I'm not going to see you ever again, I'm needing that sword for transmog that is a huge upgrade for you."
The "same kind of attitude players have in Warcraft" is ALREADY PREVALENT in this community. So, too late.

Now just give me the functionality to run Maelstrom this week if I want to, without wasting my paid game time staring at Empire reflections, and I'll be happy.

I already know who I'll be grouped with - good people and a few jerks. No different than PUGs as it is in game right now.
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Vulgarr
02.13.2012 , 07:05 AM | #399
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiralyon View Post
I said it yesterday and I'll say it again.

People are already getting upset about people needing gear for companions that would be a big upgrade for someone in their group. If a Cross-Server LFG tool is put in, what do you think will happen there? Do you think that kind of activity is going to slow down or just stop?

It will only get worse. It will create the same kind of attitude players have in Warcraft. "I'm not going to see you ever again, I'm needing that sword for transmog that is a huge upgrade for you."

The only people I have seen in this thread so far that want Cross-Server are those who never played an MMO before blizzard put theirs in. Those people have already ruined their reputation on their server, and are too lazy to change servers and try to be polite on the new one.

This is a social game, it's built into the foundation of the game with the social rank system, if you don't like that, this may not be the game for you. It is NOT a clone of warcraft or any other MMO. A LFG tool will only destroy the purpose of the social rank system if it is made Cross-Server, and the sense of a server community.
to be perfectly honest, going back through this thread im only seeing, at most 10 different posters that want a LFD tool.

how much you want to bet these are the ones that came from wow and ruined their reps on their servers because they were used to being whiny brats that cannot play well with others, unless its a guild of trolls?

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RocNessMonster
02.13.2012 , 07:08 AM | #400
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
This is exactly the problem.

People that only think of themselves. You're not the only one playing the game dude. Its more than just YOUR needs.
Don't try to pretend you're any different. You don't care about any one else's game experience but your own.

Ontopic: here's my reason, the sooner I get burnt out on doing instances the sooner I unsub to the game. Running with LFG pugs is the easiest way to get burnt out on Flashpoints, just like how we all get burnt out playing PVP with AFK bots and the like.
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