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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Senatsu
02.12.2012 , 04:42 PM | #301
Quote: Originally Posted by Uruare View Post
Well, you've got us all pegged. Roll it up folks, the expertologist has spoken.





Behold, the power of imagination! Cancel all college and university classes at once, folks; all the facts we need we can just make up with total authority.

Brilliant!





You don't say? It's really that simple, is it?
He is actually right. About the repercussions to difficulty if an LFD system were implemented, at least.

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ragamer
02.12.2012 , 04:50 PM | #302
Quote:
He is actually right. About the repercussions to difficulty if an LFD system were implemented, at least.
Some ppl is just scared about telling why they need this or that thing changed because they know others will not support the REAL reassons... So they hide behind generic phrases.

I've grown used to this childish reactions of posters like the one above you when reading some1's clear ideas on what he/she looks on a game...

...I repeat again, it's a matter of tastes... I'm perfectly clear on what I like and do not, are LFD supporters as clear? Don't think so.

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Touchbass
02.12.2012 , 04:56 PM | #303
Quote: Originally Posted by Senatsu View Post
He is actually right. About the repercussions to difficulty if an LFD system were implemented, at least.
This isn't true. Catacylsm heroics were difficult in some manner of speaking when they were released. If you used a group from your server or just turned off the buff they were just about right for difficulty. Heroics are not suppose to be harder then raids, if they become too difficult it requires class stacking.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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astrocanis
02.12.2012 , 05:03 PM | #304
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
This isn't true. Catacylsm heroics were difficult in some manner of speaking when they were released. If you used a group from your server or just turned off the buff they were just about right for difficulty. Heroics are not suppose to be harder then raids, if they become too difficult it requires class stacking.
They were difficult primarily because healing was nerfed to oblivion and aoe ruled the day - which tossed CC right out the window.

We're not just talking about heroics. We're talking the dichotomy between the "I want what I want right now - I don't spend $xx to wait for as much as 15 minues" vs the "I think community and quality of experience matter more that the quantity and I'm afraid of what will happen when LFD goes cross server."

I tend towards the latter, as you may have guessed.

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Senatsu
02.12.2012 , 05:10 PM | #305
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
This isn't true. Catacylsm heroics were difficult in some manner of speaking when they were released. If you used a group from your server or just turned off the buff they were just about right for difficulty. Heroics are not suppose to be harder then raids, if they become too difficult it requires class stacking.
You obviously didn't understand what I meant, let me explain.

Without an automated grouping system, you will have your own choice at the group composition.
Let's say you're doing Directive 7. That FP is filled with droids, and very few classes have CCs that are for droids (Sith Warrior and Jedi Knight only as far as I remember). When you have the choice of selecting which classes are in your group, it's easier to pick a composition that will have abilities like CCs that will make the FP easier. I see people often spamming in chat such things like: LF1M tank/dps/healer (whatever) for FP XXXX pref class XXXX.

With an LFD tool it will all be randomized. You can get a group with 4 Sith Inquisitors; 1 Sith Assassin tank, 2 Sith Assassin DPSers and 1 Sith Sorcerer healer. In a FP like Directive 7 you'll have no CC at all against droids, which will make it harder. Therefore the content creators have to make the new dungeons with this in mind, causing them ultimately to become easier across the board. Either that or more CC abilities will be able to control droids, in which case it wouldn't matter.

Can this be classified as a "legitimate" reason for not having an LFD tool or do you just say no because you don't want to realize it? (Not directed at you specifically, Touchbass).

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EWJunkie
02.12.2012 , 05:14 PM | #306
Add my voice to the chorus begging for an LFD tool. I just don't have time to stand around doing nothing hoping that by the time I get a group together that I'll still have time to actually complete the FP or Heroic. Having 19 people on the entire planet doesn't exactly help.

I desperately want an LFD tool. PLEASE!

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astrocanis
02.12.2012 , 05:16 PM | #307
Quote: Originally Posted by EWJunkie View Post
Add my voice to the chorus begging for an LFD tool. I just don't have time to stand around doing nothing hoping that by the time I get a group together that I'll still have time to actually complete the FP or Heroic. Having 19 people on the entire planet doesn't exactly help.

I desperately want an LFD tool. PLEASE!
Wouldn't either free transfers or server merges do just as well?

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DarthKhaos
02.12.2012 , 05:18 PM | #308
Quote: Originally Posted by EWJunkie View Post
Add my voice to the chorus begging for an LFD tool. I just don't have time to stand around doing nothing hoping that by the time I get a group together that I'll still have time to actually complete the FP or Heroic. Having 19 people on the entire planet doesn't exactly help.

I desperately want an LFD tool. PLEASE!
You do know there's more people playing on your server than just where you're located right?
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Ethern
02.12.2012 , 05:30 PM | #309
Quote: Originally Posted by Vulgarr View Post
no.

the community element is there for when we get out of flashpoints with people like you and inform the community of what you did to deserve ostracism.

you really didnt read my post earlier that you were bashing did you?
That's your conception. Please do not assume it is shared by everyone. The M in the MMO stands for multiplayer, and it can go from the simple co-op level to the full community participation.
If you don't realize that TOR does belong more to the former then the latter, as many modern MMOs, then I can't do nothing for you. Grab some intel potion because, you are obviously missing some key elements.
Hint -> accent on solo gameplay.
-> self sufficient crafting = crew skills
-> etc.

And since the PR forums have been wiped, I can't provide you the link. Deal with it. Have fun in your dream. Good luck with your next facebook MMO when the cross server LFD will be implemented in TOR.

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Uruare
02.12.2012 , 05:33 PM | #310
Quote: Originally Posted by ragamer View Post
Some ppl is just scared about telling why they need this or that thing changed because they know others will not support the REAL reassons... So they hide behind generic phrases.

I've grown used to this childish reactions of posters like the one above you when reading some1's clear ideas on what he/she looks on a game...

...I repeat again, it's a matter of tastes... I'm perfectly clear on what I like and do not, are LFD supporters as clear? Don't think so.

I want LFG tools for the following reasons:


1) I have no interest in playing with most people I'll ever meet. It's my recreation time, I shouldn't have to play the Highschool Popularity game so I can play the Raidy-Geargrindy game I'm wanting to play.


2) I neither have, nor would want to spend in the event of having, needless amounts of time and energy manually recruiting for a team to do anything with. LFG tools are tools of efficient delivery as I rate them; they enable us to do that dungeon content pretty much whenever we want to hit a Queue button.

3) People like you with your beyond-arrogant assumptions and conflations presented as factual knowledge either bore me or disgust me. See number 1 for my feeling on that.


4) There is no demonstrable evidence that LFG tools make anything worse for anybody and the whole premise that such tools are baneful reeks of slighted egotism in the case of the "Peeps need to werk to do dungeons!" arguments, and outright ignorance in the case of the "Destroyz communiteez o'noez!" arguments.

There aren't any other arguments with even that much substance to reference positioned against LFG tools. I suppose we could resort to completely incoherent babble to prop up a few more if validity and substance are of no concern though.


Closing comment: You're one arrogant, presumptive little monkey to pretend you know so very much about how it all is and what everyone thinks and what all the motives are.

Clear enough for ya?