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Been thru Voss 3 times - IT. NEEDS. REBALANCING.

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Been thru Voss 3 times - IT. NEEDS. REBALANCING.

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Bordak
05.19.2012 , 07:42 AM | #151
While I do believe Voss is the most "difficult" of the planets to quest through, assuming you do more than just your class quest line, I don't believe it warrants a re-balance. I believe many people's difficulties with the planet are either due to level, gear, or class/companion combination. Having gone through it on a Consular Shadow with a CC spamming healer for a companion, it was a cake walk.

Having JUST gone through it on my Knight-Guardian DPS using Scourge, it was more difficult. Sure, I could have used Doc, but since there are barely any people left on my server, and therefore crap for gear on the AH, gearing him up is too commendation reliant, and I use most of those for myself and the droid that's needed for the end of Chapter 3.

There are Elites that drop some crazy DoTs.. sure. There are Elite pairings and a CRAP TON of Elite patrols that, if they remain uninterrupted, deal more damage than most of the Golds.. sure. I kind of like it that way. Voss has done more to make me "l2p" than anything else I've encountered in the game. I've been able to be creative... even if breaking out Doc in his level 35-41 gear in a few instances made things easier for me.

If anything, I think every planet should have been more in line with Voss as far as difficulty, although more evenly spread out. Not necessarily a gradual increase from planet to planet, but an increase ON each planet. Give you a few easypeasy quests starting out, then slowly ramp up the difficulty as you progress.

I WILL agree that the previous experiences on other planets did little to prepare me for certain sections of Voss. Rounding corners on a bike at high speed only to run into some named boss with 100k+ hp, or two golds, or two elites with an elite patrol, or 6 normals with an elite patrol.... Meh.

Voss is my second favorite planet due to the number of quests, the number of random Commendation drops, and I kind of like the peeps. I normally give two spits about lore and story, but I find their perception of the Force interesting and it warrants them being a playable species, imo.
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ryathal
05.19.2012 , 08:03 AM | #152
the primary problem people have is trying to play a companion/character combo that isn't a tank/healer combo, if you do play a tank/healer combo there isn't much that can stop you unless you are terrible.

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Anti_Bodies
05.19.2012 , 08:08 AM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by jimmybob View Post
My Knight, my Trooper, and my Inquisitor have all encountered the exact same problem on Voss. You can get through the first three-quarters of the planet without much problem. Then

BLAM

Brick wall. Suddenly, violently, you are way, way under powered.

Let me explain how I level. I do all the quests, and I do 90% of the bonuses, and I do all the bonus series as soon as they are available. I do the space missions every time I'm in my ship. I craft rare/blue items religiously and spend my commendations wisely, so what I have equipped it worlds beyond what I'm always offered as quest rewards.

Do you know what this should mean? This should mean that, since I've gotten bonus, extra, non-mandatory XP, and since my gear and my companion's gear is twice as good as the things they offer to give me, (which should be perfectly adequate themselves, since, you know, the game is trying to give it to me at that point in time,) that ALL means I should be kicking PvE *** up AND down BOTH sides of the street.

This is not what is happening on Voss. You do one quest after the other, they are all fine and doable... then comes the one. The one where no matter how many stims you chug, now matter which companion combo you try, no matter how often you try to interrupt, that mission boss is just impossible. And you still have 90% of level 46 to go through before you can get to level 47.

If this happened once on one faction, it could be a fluke. But no. The last questing area of Voss needs a nerf, and it needs to happen before any of my other characters get to that godforsaken planet.

Up until this one point, everything is balanced pretty alright. A person can be caught up without much difficulty all throughout the game, WITHOUT having done any silly Flashpoints or PvP, until this point. Then suddenly... ugh.
I think you are lying/eggzagerating how much questing you do. I skip quests and I'm over leveled. If you do every single one, you should be at 50 by the time you hit Voss.


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What you just described is the fact that this game, in terms of Beta Testing, WASNT TESTED PROPERLY!!

1/2 the game is largely untested and unrefined.

What arent you realizing about that?
If you think this game sucks just leave? The second half of the game isn't as polished, but its a long stretch to say its untested and unrefined. My trooper got through just fine and my OP/Knight are doing fine as well.

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BlueFromMoon
05.19.2012 , 08:21 AM | #154
I just finished Voss today as Sith Warrior, sure you need to be skilled, when to Force Push, when use Choke, when you let your companion take some damage etc, when you put shield up, when you use health-boost. L2P basically.

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DARKLORDDAISHI
05.19.2012 , 08:51 AM | #155
i been through Voss with each imperial class and the only time i had trouble was taking down the Avatar of Sel-Makor . I always try to keep my and companions gear within at least 5-10 levels of my current level
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ZirusZero
05.19.2012 , 08:57 AM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by FalmeseReb View Post
erm, voss is easy... the only annoyingly difficult quest line was the NS Bonus round, and they nerfed it already. Sounds like you dont have up to date gear. Doing lvl 47 missions in lvl 41 gear is not a good way to be successful.
Exactly. The only hard part, was the Nightmare lands quests.
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asbalana
05.19.2012 , 09:22 AM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by jimmybob View Post
My Knight, my Trooper, and my Inquisitor have all encountered the exact same problem on Voss. You can get through the first three-quarters of the planet without much problem. Then

BLAM

Brick wall. Suddenly, violently, you are way, way under powered.
If I am remembering correctly, I would have to agree. I found the same on some other planets or quest lines.

I think that the game is very very gear dependent and different companion combinations are indeed much stronger and more successful than others. I absolutely hate to use the term l2p, but it seems that each class does indeed have a most efficient / powerful approach to combat and there is a big difference in how you use your abiities in any situation. I have a very toe to toe dps smash face mentality and yet love my SI heals to pieces and boy the two do not mix. So l2p and playing the class to it's strength has been a bit of a self inflicted challenge for me.

LOL, the first time through I had to leave and put on a few levels, the second I had my gear as good as possible and went with a different well geared companion at level, and the third was easiest of all, I just cake walked though playing as a duo with my wife who plays a SW and is the real smash face person in our family.

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NismoGThirtyfive
05.19.2012 , 09:26 AM | #158
Voss was one of my favorite planets because it was a little more difficult then the others. I am usually over by a few levels but the only mob that gave me any real trouble my class quest operative boss bus still able beat him after a few tries.
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Vonb
05.19.2012 , 09:27 AM | #159
Voss wat the only planet where I found a real challenge in the solo play and had to think before starting a fight, ... I actually enjoyed it and wished more of the game was like that.
Yes died a few times, more than on other planets, yet it felt like when I won and completed a quest (Nightmare area ... or whatever its called comes to mind, with mad chain agro sometimes) I had achieved something.
Nothing extraordinary, but enough to keep me awake, and my brain alert.

For that reason, and the awesome NPC armour on Voss, it is one of my favourite planets!

And I came back at 50 to kill these champions too... just because I could.
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janne_josefsson
05.19.2012 , 11:56 AM | #160
I fully agree with OP.

I have little to no problem doing my class quests on Voss but the ordinary ones are hard as hell.
Whenever i am done with my classquests on Voss i go straight to Corelia and it is pretty much down hill from there on. This is how i have handled the leveling of 5 characters and will continue to do so while leveling future characters.

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