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Been thru Voss 3 times - IT. NEEDS. REBALANCING.

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Been thru Voss 3 times - IT. NEEDS. REBALANCING.

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GRINnBARRETT
05.19.2012 , 01:39 AM | #141
I experienced this on my 1st character when the game released. The subsequent 2 characters I've taken through have had no problem. There is a noticeable difficulty increase at a certain point but I'm experienced enough at this point to overcome it.

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Apeth
05.19.2012 , 02:35 AM | #142
Voss is fine been through it on consular, IA and bh

Sorry but you need to ltp unless your underlevelled. Or keep trying. Some things should be a challenge.
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NovaNoir
05.19.2012 , 05:47 AM | #143
I... didn't really find Voss that hard, playing as a tank-specced Shadow with Nadia. The few times I did die (that *********** psychadelic Voss dream kept throwing me off because I couldn't tell what was happening, and that Avatar guy in the swamp), I swapped to Tharan and stomped everything.

That said, I'd gone through from Balmorra on undergeared and underfunded from constantly making armorings and mods for my friends, so I'd learned how to use my abilities effectively.

The spike in difficulty from Belsavis to Voss is about as noticeable as the spike in difficulty from Balmorra to Quesh. It's definitely there, and it's definitely noticeable if you're not so overpowered you're roflstomping everything. It's not insurmountable, though.

Unfortunately, the game doesn't exactly teach you how to use your abilities effectively. For people who already know, it's not an issue, but for new players who have been roflstomping- well, people have said it repeatedly; learn to play.

I don't mean to be condescending when I say this. The game doesn't effectively teach you how to use your abilities and such, though, so you're going to have to learn.

Try building up some credits, then go back to Belsavis and try to solo some of the Heroic 4's. You'll probably be curbstomped, but in the meantime, the tricks you pick up will help a lot.

Just... experiment, and see what works. It took me a long while, and was pretty frustrating, but in the end, i figured out how to play better, and I've had more fun playing the game since I learned.

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Blackardin
05.19.2012 , 06:03 AM | #144
Learn to interupt. ;p

As I recall, the only difference between Voss and any other planet was the expectation that one must play their character rather then just go in and smash face. One had to learn to watch the opponent, interrupt, stun, move out of the fire. There was a need to bring one's gear up to date for the first time in the game. In short it was a prelude to raiding and end game.

Upgrade your gear to blue. Get a purple weapon. CC, Interrupt and stun. Employ the appropriate companion. Voss becomes a cake-walk.
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Blackardin
05.19.2012 , 06:10 AM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by WickedDjinn View Post
This is why nothing objective can ever actually get done on the message board.

If someone even SUGGESTS that a zone might need rebalancing, people come out of the woodwork to say "Well u just sux. LMFAO learn2play!"

You would think that rational, reasonable people 'might' understand that even if I personally haven't had the same experience, it doesn't automatically invalidate the other players experience.
Read my above post.

....and the reason there is resistance is because people tend to blame others, or other entities for their inability to succeed. They are having trouble, rather then coming to the boards an asking, "what, if anything, am I doing wrong", or "Is anyone else having trouble on Voss?", they catapult instantly to "Voss needs to be rebalanced!".

Now, you have a bunch of people here telling you that it is just not so, that Voss was pretty easy. You can either take their advice and take the steps required to enhance your gaming experience, or you can pound the drum and continue to insist that its the game and not you.

....and don't get me wrong. I've done it too. We all have made assumptions and misinterpretations at one point or another, based on either our misunderstanding, or a shift in mechanics that caught us off guard. Trust me. Its not so much that Voss is harder, it just requires one to tune up is all. Try that and I'm sure you will find it less frustrating.

G'luck
May the Schwartz be with you....

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Kabaal
05.19.2012 , 06:15 AM | #146
I can't say that i've found one single part of the game 'too hard', i'd go as far as saying all the solo content is too easy. Threads like this one confuddle me.

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jgelling
05.19.2012 , 07:07 AM | #147
I think it's fair to point out the Avatar can be very challenging, at a couple of points key objectives/bonus objectives involve taking on TWO elite (or at least very strong) techs/gunslingers which is a big challenge for some specs, and just generally Voss is more difficult than even Corellia, which follows it, and substantially more difficult than the preceeding planets.

Voss does stand out as pound for pound the most difficult planet for the rated levels. It's not like it's not doable, because everything in this game can be handled with enough time. Beating the game isn't some challenge or achievement - it's just a grind. But Voss is particularly grinding.

I'd actually prefer if the rest of the game was more like Voss - without two elites in a couple of the solo quests - but if the game on regular mode is supposed to be a cakewalk, it is kind of strange Voss isn't balanced like the rest of the game. But note your class quests on Voss are short and sweet - it's only the planet quests that are a little challenging.

So yeah, I still agree with the OP that Voss has a couple of issues and isn't balanced like any of the other planets. Is it game-breaking or something that NEEDS to be changed - no. And on the list of issues with the game this hardly rates. But it is pretty curious - games usually follow a curve of increasing difficulty, or at least are consistent, and this game is total easy-mode until Voss, where there are a couple of speed bumps, and then resumes easy-mode until the final boss fight, which in my limited experience was a nail-biting matter of luck - whose criticals happened to hit.

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kidatwood
05.19.2012 , 07:15 AM | #148
Didn't read the whole thread but what about the damage mod in your equipped orange weapon?

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SupernovaRU
05.19.2012 , 07:15 AM | #149
On both my 50s I had hit 49 by the time I hit Voss. On Belsavis I usually burn through 47-48 easily. By the time I hit 40 I have such a huge green buffer of bonus exp built up that I can do my regular logoffs in cantinas and not worry about ever completely exhausting that buffer if I decide to log off in the field a few times.

Having run through Voss as a Healer w/ NPC tank and a Tank with NPC healer, I've encountered no issues with doing the planet's missions. Though I must point out that I tend to pvp while I mission, which accounts for the extra exp gain. Not everyone pvps, and I also do the bonus missions (if they aren't greyed out) on planets, as well as any other extra missions.

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jgelling
05.19.2012 , 07:19 AM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by SupernovaRU View Post
On both my 50s I had hit 49 by the time I hit Voss. On Belsavis I usually burn through 47-48 easily. By the time I hit 40 I have such a huge green buffer of bonus exp built up that I can do my regular logoffs in cantinas and not worry about ever completely exhausting that buffer if I decide to log off in the field a few times.

Having run through Voss as a Healer w/ NPC tank and a Tank with NPC healer, I've encountered no issues with doing the planet's missions. Though I must point out that I tend to pvp while I mission, which accounts for the extra exp gain. Not everyone pvps, and I also do the bonus missions (if they aren't greyed out) on planets, as well as any other extra missions.
Well a lot of people land on Voss at 45 or lower and the average player LEAVES at 47 or 48, even with the bonus. ARRIVING at Voss at 49 - yeah - I'm sure you A-moved through everything.

I still say the normal game mode is too easy, especially for boss fights, but if that's how it's supposed to be, Voss is the one planet that isn't quite like the others, but still obviously very do-able. If you skip the planet quest and only do your class stuff it's a short and sweet cake-walk.