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Big wins for casuals! Dual Spec - Cross server

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Big wins for casuals! Dual Spec - Cross server

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astrocanis
02.12.2012 , 03:16 PM | #971
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSeidhr View Post
So you'll leave if they implement a tool that helps people get groups without spamming general chat for an hour? Cool. Have fun with your other games.
I probably will as well. The fact you don't understand why says more about you than he and I.

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londerwost
02.12.2012 , 03:19 PM | #972
Honestly I think the community will do what the community will do regardless of LFG. A prime example is CoH. When they launched LFG for their raid instances, people pretty much ignored it and continued to form teams on their own. If they had problems getting the last few people, they'd queue to fill in. The community was not hurt by it.

WoW is a bad example to use for community building because it was always about loot and min/max gaming. If community was formed it WoW, it was done by the players, not by anything the game instituted.

If your concern is that people stop forming teams on their own, then it's something you'll have to adapt to. Because it's what the community wants. If they don't want it, then people will continue to manually form teams.

It feels weird having to argue for improving game play for the sake of community when community has always been about the players and not function of the game. The game is merely a portal, what you do with it in regards to community is up to you, not the game developers.

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RogueFive
02.12.2012 , 03:30 PM | #973
This is a big deal to me.

I unsubscribed despite loving the game. I plan to come back soon, but I need a break so I have more fun leveling a character to 50 again. I'd focus on the endgame, but I've gotten most of my PvP set and I can't be bothered to spam LFG for HM groups. (Also, my guild's leader seems to be MIA. We beat Eternity Vault twice, but then nothing got scheduled again - and I don't care enough about the endgame to want to find another guild.

I can tell from having run the more popular hardmodes (only got a few of these when I saw a "LF1M need healer" spam while waiting for warzone pops) that the story is being told in the flashpoints, so I'd probably be interested in operations (raiding) if there was an LFG tool.

Anyway, I'll come back when I'm ready to make a new alt and maybe they'll have an interesting endgame then. The other endgame disappointment is Ilum. . . I thought it would be like Wintergrasp but with Star Wars vehicles and themes and instead it is 1) way too big and 2) doesn't reward a win objective (by this I mean winning by taking the enemy base - not trading a point back and forth). Now it's built on kills and players are just cheating on this - dying and then running back and being allowed to kill the other team without opposition. So now they can still cheat, but they get huge amounts of Valor instead of just a daily and weekly.

Just adding that this feature would go a long way to keeping me as a permanent subscriber instead of someone who plans to pop-in and play solo PvE every couple of months.

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Touchbass
02.12.2012 , 04:03 PM | #974
Quote: Originally Posted by RogueFive View Post
This is a big deal to me.

I unsubscribed despite loving the game. I plan to come back soon, but I need a break so I have more fun leveling a character to 50 again. I'd focus on the endgame, but I've gotten most of my PvP set and I can't be bothered to spam LFG for HM groups. (Also, my guild's leader seems to be MIA. We beat Eternity Vault twice, but then nothing got scheduled again - and I don't care enough about the endgame to want to find another guild.

I can tell from having run the more popular hardmodes (only got a few of these when I saw a "LF1M need healer" spam while waiting for warzone pops) that the story is being told in the flashpoints, so I'd probably be interested in operations (raiding) if there was an LFG tool.

Anyway, I'll come back when I'm ready to make a new alt and maybe they'll have an interesting endgame then. The other endgame disappointment is Ilum. . . I thought it would be like Wintergrasp but with Star Wars vehicles and themes and instead it is 1) way too big and 2) doesn't reward a win objective (by this I mean winning by taking the enemy base - not trading a point back and forth). Now it's built on kills and players are just cheating on this - dying and then running back and being allowed to kill the other team without opposition. So now they can still cheat, but they get huge amounts of Valor instead of just a daily and weekly.

Just adding that this feature would go a long way to keeping me as a permanent subscriber instead of someone who plans to pop-in and play solo PvE every couple of months.
I feel exactly the same way accept I'm not 50 yet. Whenever I'm in fleet on business errands I am seeing a disturbing trend of "LF 1 Tank - must be geared, quick run", I don't know if I want to go through that of a game experience again
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Yndras
02.12.2012 , 05:01 PM | #975
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
In the dev. Q&A on Feb 10th Dual Spec got confirmed and now an interview with Stephen Reid has just confirmed they are looking into a cross server flash point finder which is huge considering they said they didn't like the notion originally.

http://toroz.com.au/2012/02/stephen-...ry-transcript/

Who won? Who is next? You decide!

EDIT: For people skeptical or lazy

Simon – Any plans for an LFG tool?

SR: Definitely being looked at including cross-server Flashpoint tool. Definitely wanting to do.


EDIT 2: The above is not "word for word" and there is a podcast that you can listen to and the LFD part comes around 26:10. Under no way or form does he say LFD Is coming cross server but he confirms that they are in fact looking at it which is HUGE from their previous stance.
I seriously hope they reconsider this. When Blizzard first announced their plans for a cross realm LFG i was all for it, untill i saw what it did to the community and instancing became a terrible experience. I eventually left because the enjoyment of the instances where always tarnish by those random fwit's.

On the other subject, PVP cross realm Grouping, this is also a terrible idea. For the same reasons as the above. You get people that demand you do as they say, and then leave when you are losing. At least in a server based warzone, people can control the community by refusing to play with certian individuals. If they want better group creation, create a LFG global channel that spans ALL planets, except starting planets, so that people can find groups instead of having to hang out in the FLEET channels. This is all that is needed.

Im on a relatively low pop server and my queue times are more than acceptable.
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Wallblind
02.12.2012 , 05:09 PM | #976
Quote: Originally Posted by lineschmidt View Post
Grats on not reading anything

Cross server tools is a surefire way to destroy communities. Us employed people with social skills wants to play mmos for the social aspect, not lobby games
I've played enough mmo's to know that I have zero desire to socialize with 90% of the people who play them. The internet is loaded with trolls who's sole purpose in life is to annoy the piss out of people. If you want to socialize, I suggest going outside, or to a bar. But hey, I realize "outside" is soooo 1990's.

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londerwost
02.12.2012 , 05:17 PM | #977
Quote: Originally Posted by Wallblind View Post
I've played enough mmo's to know that I have zero desire to socialize with 90% of the people who play them. The internet is loaded with trolls who's sole purpose in life is to annoy the piss out of people. If you want to socialize, I suggest going outside, or to a bar. But hey, I realize "outside" is soooo 1990's.
Could always go back to MUDs.

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Ethern
02.12.2012 , 05:21 PM | #978
Quote: Originally Posted by Wallblind View Post
I've played enough mmo's to know that I have zero desire to socialize with 90% of the people who play them. The internet is loaded with trolls who's sole purpose in life is to annoy the piss out of people. If you want to socialize, I suggest going outside, or to a bar. But hey, I realize "outside" is soooo 1990's.
Who's the more social guy? The one in his basement 24/7 whose toon is in a large guild? Or the one who is rarely ingame because out with his friends?
The social argument brought in a LFG thread is the dumbest I have ever read.

As I said earlier, we can content both of the extremes: the ones who want just some co-op and the one who want to make a community feeling a mandatory element just to hit a key.
The cross server LFG tool content the former, the old ways (channel spam) content the latter. Both can coexist.

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astrocanis
02.12.2012 , 05:25 PM | #979
Quote: Originally Posted by Wallblind View Post
I've played enough mmo's to know that I have zero desire to socialize with 90% of the people who play them. The internet is loaded with trolls who's sole purpose in life is to annoy the piss out of people. If you want to socialize, I suggest going outside, or to a bar. But hey, I realize "outside" is soooo 1990's.
Black or white? Because 90% are fwits, it's therefore ok to force us to group with them? I'm confused - either you don't want to socialize or you want to enforce grouping with dipscheisses.

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salvadorellama
02.12.2012 , 05:31 PM | #980
Quote: Originally Posted by Vallowen View Post
if they put in 'dungeon finder', i'm out
If you played Republic and experienced how effing hard it is to get a group together for ANYTHING given the extremely low populations, you might think differently.

If you play Imperial, cya! One less person to worry about outnumbering the Republics.
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