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Explain Luke Skywalker's feats

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Explain Luke Skywalker's feats

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BrianDavion
02.09.2012 , 09:35 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Drudenfusz View Post
With all the authors working on Star Wars the capabilities of the Jedi and the Sith grew with the years, but since Luke and Palaptine are the epic characters from the movies some authors thought they should be more powerful than the rest...
exactly that

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Munashe
02.09.2012 , 09:57 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by georgemattson View Post
It's that third side of the Force that nobody has ever documented. It's called the whiny side. Luke was the undisputed master of that.

Then, of course, there's also the really bad acting side of the force (which is somewhat related). That's what Anakin was the master of, and this is why he was able to kill so many other Jedi. Unfortunately for him, he started channeling the ghost of the Jedi master James Earl Jones after he put the suit on, and the bad acting/whining side largely deserted him.

And this is why Luke was able to eventually defeat him.

classic

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Slemfiskz
02.09.2012 , 10:04 PM | #23
it is as they say, serial killers gets better with every kill aye

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ErikModi
02.09.2012 , 10:47 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by meshade View Post
Can someone explain why Luke is so ridiculously overpowered after the ROTJ and how did he manage to get there?
Too many EU authors, Kevin J. Anderson especially, took Vader's statement that "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force" a little too literally.

"Use the Force, Luke!" became the get-out-of-jail-free card for every bad and/or lazy author who wrote Star Wars between Tim Zhan's two Bantam entries (Heir to the Empire/Dark Force Rising/The Last Command trilogy, and Hand of Thrawn duology.) One of my favorite parts in Hand of Thrawn actually occurs near the beginning of the first book, Spectre of the Past, when Luke and Han are trying to figure out how to deal with a pirate ship, and Luke is trying to (in Superman fashion) decide which of his crazy super-powers he'll use to defeat them. . . tear the ship apart with the Force, take control of the minds of the crew and make them sit still while they're arrested, whatever. That's when he sees a vision of Emperor Palpatine and Exar Kun laughing at him, and he realizes that maybe getting flashy with his Force power isn't the best example to set for proper Jedi behavior. A good chunk of those books is devoted to Luke gaining new insight into the Force, specifically the idea that it shouldn't be a hammer to pound every problem into submission.
Jedi vs. Sith, Page 97, column 2, paragraph 4, line 1:

Prior to the Battle of Ruusan, the Jedi used crystals from many different sources, and ignited lightsabers in every known hue, including purple, orange, and gold.

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Wolfninjajedi
02.09.2012 , 10:52 PM | #25
How is taking "The ability to destroy a planet, is insignificant next to the power of the force" too literal? The force is that powerful, they never specificy that the force has any limitations in what it can do.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.

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ErikModi
02.09.2012 , 11:02 PM | #26
I mean exactly that. The writers of Dark Empire (where all this "Force Storm" nonsense comes from) assumed that A) Vader was actually FACTUALLY CORRECT in saying that the Force is far more powerful than the ability to destroy a planet (and since Sith are renowned for their capacity for deceit, this is kind of stupid in and of itself), and B) that if the Force is indeed more powerful than the ability to destroy a planet, it must INCLUDE the ability to destroy a planet. This is a logical fallacy.

The Death Star can destroy a planet. It can destroy planets indefinitely (as long as it isn't blown up.) It is very good at destroying planets. But that's really all it can do. It can only destroy planets (and threaten to destroy planets.) It's the biggest, most expensive, most grandiose, most over-the-top one-trick pony in history.

The Force may not be able to actually destroy a planet. But it can warn you of danger before it happens. It can allow you see the future, the past, and distant locations. It can move objects with a thought. It can heal your body and your mind. It can allow you communicate with others instantly over vast distances. It can influence others to get you out of trouble. It can prolong your life, empower your body, temporarily alleviate the effects of old age, delay the onset of old age, keep your body and mind sharp and active. Oh, and if you get sufficiently angry, it can let you nuke anyone in your path with excruciating burning sizzling hate channeled into electricity.

All that is a LOT more powerful than simply the ability to blow up a huge chunk of rock in space.
Jedi vs. Sith, Page 97, column 2, paragraph 4, line 1:

Prior to the Battle of Ruusan, the Jedi used crystals from many different sources, and ignited lightsabers in every known hue, including purple, orange, and gold.

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Wolfninjajedi
02.09.2012 , 11:13 PM | #27
Oh wait...sorry I thought you were using that in the context of the force not being more powerful then destroying a planet.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.

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LgndaryWarrior
02.09.2012 , 11:34 PM | #28
After the 6th movie Luke Skywalker goes to the Darkside because hes all ****ed up in the head. He learns all kinds of darkside powers and then ends up back on the lightside and combines his two powers...Same situation as a storyline in this game. The Revan quests. He just understands the force is all.

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Zalophus
02.09.2012 , 11:34 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by ErikModi View Post
The Death Star can destroy a planet. It can destroy planets indefinitely (as long as it isn't blown up.) It is very good at destroying planets. But that's really all it can do. It can only destroy planets (and threaten to destroy planets.) It's the biggest, most expensive, most grandiose, most over-the-top one-trick pony in history.
WRONG! It also has a tractor beam.
You can never be too rich, too good looking, or too well armed.

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ErikModi
02.09.2012 , 11:51 PM | #30
To pull in ships. . . likely fleeing from a destroyed planet. . . probably so they execute the survivors, to more efficiently destroy the planet, and all its population.
Jedi vs. Sith, Page 97, column 2, paragraph 4, line 1:

Prior to the Battle of Ruusan, the Jedi used crystals from many different sources, and ignited lightsabers in every known hue, including purple, orange, and gold.