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WHY so many tokens at bags?what about the ppl that worked hard for their gear?

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WHY so many tokens at bags?what about the ppl that worked hard for their gear?
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OldSwab
02.08.2012 , 12:43 PM | #161
If you really feel you're working that much harder than everyone else, perhaps you've gotten a bit overly-invested in this, what we call, "game". The bags still cost the same amount of "effort", which is variable depending on your Ilum situation specific to your server. That has not changed.

Gear you get from the bags has been reduced. That's actually more effort in many cases. I opened 45 bags and got 10 pieces with 1 duplicate. I've been very lucky, can't say that I felt like it was "hard work".

Getting the top-end battlemaster stuff will be just as randomy, if that's what you consider "work". I think you're upset because there would have always been a few unlucky people to "haha-u-dead-to-mah-gear!" with the old system. With the new system, if you PvP, you will gradually acquire the gear. If you PvP alot, you will be at least in Champ gear post valor 60 in fairly short order.

Not sure what the crying is all about. People who enjoy PvP will get tier 2 PvP gear as a linear function of how much they PvP. They will be more competitive based on stats, if you are a "hardcore" player then you'll still dismantle them 1v1. The only thing it will genuinely change is possibly Ilum, when Republics are able to progressively build expertise. Still, in zerg v. zerg, you will rely on mass tactics (stealthers stunning/killing the healers in the back of the group, simultaneous mortars, etc.) to win, while bearing in mind that if either side dominates to the point of frustrating the other side into logging/WZ/pve, then nobody gets anything.

It's just gear--on someone else's toon. Wats de isha?
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Torcer
02.08.2012 , 12:54 PM | #162
Look, RNG was a terrible system and every reasonable person knew that BW was going to eventually replace luck with a more equitable system. If you rushed to 50 and ground out Bags for a month, then you have no one to blame but yourself. If you require more of reward than the joy of PvP, then you were rewarded by having an entire month to faceroll ungeared sub 50s.

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pwnkjoo
02.08.2012 , 01:11 PM | #163
I didn't even bother to read your post. Learn to spell and use the english language properly. It sounds like a bunch of crying also.

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_droider_
02.08.2012 , 01:12 PM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by Tzou View Post
ppl flamed its a fact.some didnt and i tried to explain myself to them.maybe im wrong but im here to talk about it.

many many ppl flamed my grammar(which is bad i know it)and many others even cursed me and said :watch out we are coming to get u etc etc..

just read.

if im wrong pls try to make me understand it cause now i cant.all i see is 15 tokens in BM bags that makes champ gear easy to get.and not all with BM title are full BM.
so new patch equalized ppl with 70 valor and ppl with 1 valor.
thats all i see, cause champ and BM gear has no big differences.

in any case im out..i cant stand the way ppl talk to forums.
zero conversation and tons of e-heroes.
YOU, my friend, opened this can of worms and continue to respond with invalid arguments.

YOU, my friend, continue to post with the worst sense of grammar and spelling I've seen in a long time. You acknowledge it, but continue to do it. You're either trolling, have no sense of self-worth, or no desire to make the details of your posts worth reading.

Let me try to explain this to you:

1. Champion gear is now harder to get on average. Instead of buying lottery scratch-off's, you're on a fixed income. That forces a gradual progression, with a rare chance to get a gear token here and there. The new patch did the exact opposite of equalizing. Someone with 10 valor will have a very limited amount of Champion commendations (7/800 WZ, 7/daily and 21/weekly). It is statistically impossible to get full Champion gear that early. I haven't done any math, but I would venture a guess that (from rank 1) you couldn't get full Champ by rank 25-30 now. If I'm wrong, I apologize...I'm simply trying to make a point.

2. If you're V60+, Champion tokens should come faster. Either you're already full champ, or close to it. You put in a lot of time to get V60+ and you should be rewarded, not to mention the fact that you probably don't give a **** about Champ and are already going for BM gear. Make sense?

From the looks of it, you're 12 years old and a C- student, at best. You really should just uninstall and rethink your priorities for your future.

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Vikassi
02.08.2012 , 01:15 PM | #165
the games only been out for a few months and you seem to think youve "grinded" for your gear?????? seriously????

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DarthOvertone
02.08.2012 , 01:20 PM | #166
Who gives a rats azz about gear in PvP?

Let's just have some good fights and be done with it. Any change that helps to create more good fights is a good change. Removal of the bag RNG is once such change and I approve of it.

Now they need to do the same thing for BM Boxes and all will be well.
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Ramurdyne
02.08.2012 , 01:22 PM | #167
the problem with the system is that some people have really bad luck even if they game for long periods of time and some people game really short and get all the luck

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Kabeorn
02.08.2012 , 01:24 PM | #168
I read all the posts, really I did, and I actually tried to respond in a different manner than this. Really I did. But I just can't get this one thought out of my head.

OP. With how much time you spent to get where you are, might I suggest you quit now and dedicate yourself to learning the English language. Nobody will ever take your thoughts seriously when they are presented in such an outrageously terrible format. Every valid point you may have had in all of your posts is lost the second it becomes a chore to read it.

Do yourself a favor, dedicate your time to bettering your communication skills and less time trying to better your gaming skills.

Again, I really did try to post a reply based on the topic of the thread, it was just impossible to do.

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IThrowRocks
02.08.2012 , 01:24 PM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by Tzou View Post
well nice once more ppl cried so much that ANOTHER challenging to gear up game had to nerf their system so the majority of casual players can gear UP almost EQUAL with hardcore ones.

GREAT!!!

so now as customer i would like to ask BIO and EA some QS:

before u did this crap havent u considered that at WOW ppl quiited game when gear became so easy?and not only there.

when will companies realize thats its not ALWAYS good to listen to hello kitty online players thats wants to gear up in 2 weeks?
CAUSE i can tell u that after that 100% they will quit the game.

DEDICATED players were always the semi-core to hardcore ones... ALWAYS. at PVP or PVE doesnt change the result.

casual players are casual players they come and go..

thank u so much that u made me open hundreds of bags to have 10 BM items when im lvl 70(valor)...and now ppl can take almost same gear in 1 day(weekly QS)

i wouldnt mind it if there were war hero items out there ,so centurion and champion would be easier BUT with some VALOR rank requirment.

but no its free for ppl with 10 valor rank to get it. or even with 1.

now that u will loose dedicated pvp players(already i saw hardcore pvp guild from REPS quitting their guilds and leaving the game) lets see what u will do.

ILLUM doesnt YET offer us nothing cause of the unballanced of our server.

PS: i dont care for posts like "QQ no lifer now we can play and BIO did well etc etc"

im used of this.BUT i will ask u something.IF they give pvp players the chance to gear up with TOP PVE gear ,doing normal instances..HOW U WILL FEEL?

ask yourselfs this Q.i bet my *** u will ragequit the game and search for a new one.

BIO and EA must get that PVP AND PVE are 2 seperate things with 2 SEPERATE kind of ppl and needs 2 SEPERATE treatment.

ps:2 easy pvp gears with 2 hard ones i can understand.but 2 easy ones with 1 normal one SORRY i dont get it.how u will keep me in this game if i dont do PVE at all ?with illum??
pathetic...
fix the damn OPEN pvp with objectives or copy paste WH i dont care cause now we are quitting cause of boredom and zero challenge AND MOST OF US cause u mixed casula players with hardcore ones at PVP.

over and out.

This is beautifully written.

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Turn-XGundam
02.08.2012 , 01:28 PM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by xxdragonragexx View Post
In a couple of months, they will add another tier of gear. Guess what? All the gear that took you xxxxx amount of time will be useless. It is going to be like centurion gear and players will be able to get it easily.
is this confirmed??
is BM/rakata going to be useless??
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