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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly


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Archeaon
03.01.2012 , 05:30 AM | #741
They really do need to implement a dungeon finder for this game, end game feels stagnate largely due to long wait times for hard mode flash points and lock out timers. I don't see any real reason not to have one, the people who are against the dungeon finder can still form their own groups or run with guilds I just don't see why the rest of the community should suffer because a handful of people don't want a dungeon finder when they don't have to use it.

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BlueSkittles
03.01.2012 , 02:04 PM | #742
More updates from a dev interview about cross-server PVP, which I add here because I'm sure it in some way relates to LFG...hopefully.

Interview with Gabe Amantangelo basically says cross-server PVP is coming in phase two of pvp changes (later than 1.2).

http://www.askajedi.com/2012/03/01/g...nked-pvp-more/

So there you go. Not until at least patch 1.3...many, many months from now.

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theelderfishh
03.01.2012 , 05:21 PM | #743
I for one think a LFD is a great addition, mostly because while leveling and gaining access to a new flashpoint(which I have already experienced all on my main toon) I am required to go to fleet and sit in /1 spamming for a group. When instead I could be on my quest planet experiencing the engrossing, fun storyline that Bioware created for my class. Instead I'm dealing with trolls and spamming the same thing over and over sometimes for over an hour. That, in my opinion is not fun. However, there is a LFG tool already in place. But it is poorly designed. One suggestion, is that if you mark yourself as LFG, your name and LFG comment should be visible on EVERY planet. Not just the /who location that you are on. I should be able to do my daily quests in Ilum and see that there is a tank and dps that complement my healer role sitting in Fleet looking for the same HM flashpoint that I am. Then i can PST them and see if they are still looking. Just a quick fix like that could vastly improve the grouping experience.

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Sandtrooper
03.01.2012 , 05:24 PM | #744
Please be in 1.2, oh please god please.

Please.


Sand
"You can't fight in here! This is the War Room!" - President Merkin Muffley in Dr. Stangelove

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Gardoch
03.01.2012 , 07:19 PM | #745
If an improved LFG system isn't implemented soon I don't think that there will be a community to preserve, which seems to be the primary argument against such a tool.

My 29 shadow tank, who I have played fairly casually since prerelease, i.e., 1 or 2 nights a week for 4-6 hours at a time has run exactly 0 FPs and completed 0 group quests in a group at the appropriate level.

Why?

It is simply too difficult, or perhaps more accurately, too inconvenient to find a group.

Every night that I log on I immediately /cjoin lfg on my server and flag myself lfg for any level appropriate FPs and quests, thus far I have never been in a group that has successfully stepped into the instance. We came close once, but after sitting at 3 members looking for a healer for an hour with no luck, I had to leave.

I also actively play the game that so many around here love to bash, you know the one. While I'm not looking for the same experience, I can't help but compare the two games. I log into this game and while I love the solo content, I have yet to experience any sort of group game play. Whereas, with the other game, when I log on I am guaranteed to find a group within a certain time frame, regardless of role, and every group, at least in my experience has been generally good. So, I log out of that game having had a usually fun and meaningful group experience, whereas, every night I log out of this game thinking that I should have just played Skyrim.

With this game I feel like I'm playing a single player game. I'm just questing on my own with my companions trying to level as quickly as I can. I don't feel like tanking for my healer companion is teaching me enough about how to handle groups of mobs, at least not at the same level that getting regular FP groups would. I'm afraid that I will hit 50 and have to respec DPS simply because I don't know how to effectively tank even though that is my preferred role.

All in all it seems like Bioware had an idea of how they wanted their game and it's community to be, unfortunately it doesn't seem like they adapted their vision beyond mid BC, while the MMO community has moved on. Don't get me wrong I loved that era in terms of difficulty and gameplay, but until you found yourself in a regular group it was hell trying to advance your character especially if you weren't one of the most sought after roles and/or specs.

I hold out hope that this game will get better at 50 when I catch up to my friends and guildies from that other game. At least I know that they will put up with, and understand why I'm such a noob at tanking.

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Touchbass
03.02.2012 , 02:55 AM | #746
Well in 2 days my account will finally roll over, I won't resub. As it stands, I'm in one of the more popular servers and still can't find groups for the planet heroics at all. Whenever I'm in fleet the majority of advertisements for "LFM Heroic X" requires gear levels at or above the threshold for heroics. With this kind of rampant elitism and a total vacant world while leveling I don't see a point paying to support these kind of development decisions.

I was debating holding over to the March patch but I don't see the point. Adding legacy stuff will just be races/early speeder/some other appearance stuff and the only thing I'm going to be interested in is a 5% exp boost or something similar. Adding another ops/flashpoint when I don't do them already is a complete waste of time. In fact do we even know if it's coming in March??

Bioware has made a lot of mistakes with the releasing of this game, I can understand not wanting cross server but there should of been some consideration for people on low population/low faction/off peak times for assembling teams. Apparently other features are important then the quality of our gaming experience and that just astounds me. Furthermore, I loved the leveling in this game, enough to justify the purchase. How in Gods name did they make it so linear and redundant? I love alts but I can't justify doing the same content over and over again with little variation. Worst is with every alt I level it becomes more difficult to form teams and it becomes a bigger waste of my time.


TLDR: I'll be back in 6 months when they make positive changes to the game.

EDIT: Farewell Blueskittles, Maglinx, Ferroz, Errox, Nitewolf and many others whose discussion and forum enjoyment made my time spent in SWTOR that much better. If only we had a cross server so we could group together.

EDIT 2: Could anyone recommend any free MMORPG's with a decent trial? I don't want to drop cash on another MMORPG until I try it extensively.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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chaosdefined
03.02.2012 , 03:42 AM | #747
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
Whenever I'm in fleet the majority of advertisements for "LFM Heroic X" requires gear levels at or above the threshold for heroics. With this kind of rampant elitism and a total vacant world while leveling I don't see a point paying to support these kind of development decisions.
That will sadly never change, it's always been present in MMO's.

Gear Level, iLevel, Gear Score or even just simply inspecting someone's gear, and what it usually boils down to is if you need gear from the dungeon the group doesn't want you.

These groups are usually created by people who need the gear themselves, and so to maximise the chances they will get everything they want and have an easy time being taken through, they'll only take people who are too well geared for it.

Unfortunately the Dev's can not change player attitudes.

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DeadlyScythe
03.02.2012 , 03:44 AM | #748
just do what we do on Legion of Lettow. Make a LFG channel that works over the whole server. works perfect
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chaosdefined
03.02.2012 , 04:18 AM | #749
Quote: Originally Posted by DeadlyScythe View Post
just do what we do on Legion of Lettow. Make a LFG channel that works over the whole server. works perfect
Which would be great if everyone joined it. But then that would require you to sit spamming General Chat on all planets and Fleet telling people about it. And then that's only if they join it or remember about it.

But more to the point, why should the player go to so much effort doing something the dev's should have.

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Touchbass
03.02.2012 , 06:05 AM | #750
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Which would be great if everyone joined it. But then that would require you to sit spamming General Chat on all planets and Fleet telling people about it. And then that's only if they join it or remember about it.

But more to the point, why should the player go to so much effort doing something the dev's should have.
Yeah, Bioware basically telling me that all the time I've wasted LFG is working as intended was the last straw
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!