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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly


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AzKnc
02.23.2012 , 02:17 AM | #661
Don't bother replying to that guy, he's one of those who are against everything that would actually improve the game and make it at least decent compared to the current mmo standards.

And the worst thing is that i think he's genuinely serious about the bs he posts.
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We're not in the 90's anymore.
Pro Dungeon tool. Pro Cross server. Pro Dual AC. Pro Dual spec.

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twinionx
02.23.2012 , 03:17 AM | #662
I hope the SWTOR devs will not be like the WOW devs who ignored their players. They took years to finally let paladins and bear druid tank. And then years more before they came out with a LFG tool (which I heard works). However, I have long quit wow after spamming to look for groups in non-max level dungeons. The LFG tool came too late for me.

Let's hope history does not repeat itself for SWTOR. I head SWTOR has many wonderful high end flashpoints but what is the use when no one experience them?

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chaosdefined
02.23.2012 , 03:54 AM | #663
It's kind of amusing to compare here with the WoW forums where everyone is moaning about how much better the game was before the LFD tool and how there was more of a community.

I'd prefer something simpler, like a single server LFD tool like was first introduced into WoW. Or even just a universal LFG channel that spans all the planets. That way you can still do missions around the universe but have an easier time getting groups for flashpoints.

And it would keep the same server community others want to have.

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chaosdefined
02.23.2012 , 03:56 AM | #664
Quote: Originally Posted by AzKnc View Post
Don't bother replying to that guy, he's one of those who are against everything that would actually improve the game and make it at least decent compared to the current mmo standards.

And the worst thing is that i think he's genuinely serious about the bs he posts.
Oh I know, he was claiming that Dual-Specs were what was causing WoW to die...I honestly have no idea how though and he couldn't even explain it. Though now apparently it's the LFD tool that's destroying WoW.

I asked him for his source of information on how Dual-Specs were causing WoW to die, he told me that was like asking for a source on driving...which is strange because that could be easily supplied.

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Nitewolfe
02.23.2012 , 04:06 AM | #665
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
Oh?? So instead of doing something simple, like playing when there is more people on.. You want them to break the game so you can play at the wee hours of the morning??

Last i checked the servers do not shut down just because its the wee hours of the mornings. Just how dare you try to dictate at what time some one should play! Are you so blind that you honestly think most people have that kind of control over when their free time happens?
Oh and break the game? In our view its fixing the game!


An LFG system will destroy the need to be social and destroy the need for guilds.. Maybe you should find a guild with people that play during your play time.. Then you would have a group all ready to go whenever you want.. Instead of demanding that the solo group button be installed.. Just press a button and the game finds you a group.. Where is the multiplayer in that?? You may as well be playing with a group of companions at that point.. Maybe they should make a bunch of NPC players for people to do flashpoints and operations with.. It would serve the same purpose as an LFG system would.. It would also destroy the social aspect of an MMO as well..

This is yours and people like you problem. You feel that people you may never meet again are not people. That whole attitude speaks volumes about your personality.
People are people and worth playing with regardless of if ill ever see them again. A real person to play with is so much more than a npc!
Your problem is that unless you can meet people again then you feel they are worthless!

The need for guilds is OPS or raiding not small man content! The need for a guild is to push yourself and your team through harder content!
Frankly most guilds i have been in (all raiding guilds) Wont even accept a member till they are raid ready!
Destroy socializing? My friends list on wow would like a word with you! the majority of the players on my wow friendslist are NOT even on my servers! A good cross realm system opens a player up to a lot more possibilities for meeting people than a single server could ever provide! Now it may destroy your little gated community and frankly i dont care! The majority of people choose to NOT live in gated communities in real life and many also make that same choice daily in games that have cross server systems!
You do realize that its generally thought that those that choose to wall themselves up in small gated communities are the anti social people!
Probably a waste of time replying to this but i felt the need!

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Nitewolfe
02.23.2012 , 04:10 AM | #666
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
It's kind of amusing to compare here with the WoW forums where everyone is moaning about how much better the game was before the LFD tool and how there was more of a community.

I'd prefer something simpler, like a single server LFD tool like was first introduced into WoW. Or even just a universal LFG channel that spans all the planets. That way you can still do missions around the universe but have an easier time getting groups for flashpoints.

And it would keep the same server community others want to have.
I read the wow forums almost every day also and no not everyone is whining about the lfd/lfr. Those threads are also full of players stating they love the system its a split just like it is here.

I would not be happy with just a chat channel or a single server system! i will not settle for less than a full function cross server lfg system!
i am willing to give them a few months to get one in but they are working again a time line for me.

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twinionx
02.23.2012 , 04:15 AM | #667
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Oh I know, he was claiming that Dual-Specs were what was causing WoW to die...I honestly have no idea how though and he couldn't even explain it. Though now apparently it's the LFD tool that's destroying WoW.

I asked him for his source of information on how Dual-Specs were causing WoW to die, he told me that was like asking for a source on driving...which is strange because that could be easily supplied.
In the first place, anyone who claimed WOW is dying, you should straight away give him a 90% discount on his words.

Geez, a game that has 10 million subscriber is dying...yeah right.

If people quit WOW, most likely it is because they got sick of it, like I did, rather than because of certain features.

In fact, I quit wow BEFORE there was such a thing as a LFG and dual spec. If those things were around, I might have stayed longer. For me, the trigger point was the end game was boring and the dev don't seem to listen to players and the sucky-patchy sorry excuse of a storyline, if you can even say they have a storyline.

When I heard about LFG and dual spec, I was like "well, too late!"

So I hope SWTOR can implement those before I and many other users got tired of it. Because once someone quit a game, its not going to be easy to bring that person back again. It would be like returning to an ex-girlfriend.

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chaosdefined
02.23.2012 , 04:17 AM | #668
No you're right they are split over at the WoW forums, I just find it amusing how there the argument is "We lost the community with the LFD Tool!"
and here it's "There's no community, we need the LFD Tool!".

As it is I've only done each Flashpoint once because I get bored standing for hours at any point of the day trying to find a group.

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twinionx
02.23.2012 , 05:05 AM | #669
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
No you're right they are split over at the WoW forums, I just find it amusing how there the argument is "We lost the community with the LFD Tool!"
and here it's "There's no community, we need the LFD Tool!".

As it is I've only done each Flashpoint once because I get bored standing for hours at any point of the day trying to find a group.
Dude, imagine I have 10 ALTS. So for every flashpoint, all those waiting is times 10 for me. For some strange reason, I still want to run flashpoint!

Maybe I should skip them some day. I am already skipping some of the heroic 4.

Luckily for one of my alts, I have a regular gaming group weekly so I can at least experience at least ONCE.

This really brings back evil memories of my time trying to find a group to run for the sunken temple...*shudder*

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Tifadore
02.23.2012 , 05:09 AM | #670
Quote: Originally Posted by twinionx View Post
So I hope SWTOR can implement those before I and many other users got tired of it. Because once someone quit a game, its not going to be easy to bring that person back again. It would be like returning to an ex-girlfriend.
Hehe, good one! ^^

Anyways, Republic side will die if this does not come up relativly fast I believe. There are simply not enough of us, on almost every single server, to get groups running up fast enough. Also, without handing out hefty rewards to vets for doing random dungeon, you will have the people with more casual playstyles getting stuck because there never will be anyone good to tell them what to do because they will never go with a random unless they have to.

Personaly I used to be one of thouse vets in WoW, and I initially was like "God, now I have to boost noobs. How tiersome!", but in the end I ended up loving it, and got maybe more friends because the atmosphere was more lax, and you could take the game alot less serious. The way it is now you are scared ******** of screwing up, which will cause a group splittup, which will make maybe up to an hour of work go down the toilet. Not to mention that the gear requirements are way to high when you don't "force" experienced players together with newbies, not to mention thouse of us who love to timerush instances don't get instant access to all the good stuff and ends up waiting for more time than you are player, and I could go on and on and on...

... GET DUNGEON FINDER, JETZT!