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Dear BioWare, I am... bored.

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RiflesCrossed
02.08.2012 , 10:51 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Gulthaw View Post
Either you are crazy or you haven't played wow for years.

I leveld quite a few chars in WoW and none of them followed the same path as the others, even if we're talking about same race.

Back in Vanilla I wanted my NE to have a horse, so I took her to Elwynn at level 1, arrived level 3 only by exploring though :P

Come on, take a lvl 1 and move it from it's planet. From Tython to Ord Mantell, from Korriban to Hutta.
Oh wait! You can't!!
This. 1000x this. Very nice post by OP. Very valid points. Due to my obligations in R/L and my schedule, I have played this game very casually. My highest is level 45, and I have several alts between level 20 and 35. I might get a couple of hours to play here and there, and some time on the weekends, but last night was my first time back on in over a week. I'm not even to end game yet, and while I am still having fun, I am not in any way unaware that I am quickly approaching the end of my Merc's storyline quests, and this has been the largest driving factor behind my gameplay so far.

Essentially I'm kind of dreading reaching 50, because I have never been in to the token/point grind of repeating the same FP's over and over... I have always struck a balance between PVP and PVE, as well as social aspects of the game. I had fun in EQ2 for a LONG time just roaming around, discovering new things, and finding nifty decorations for my penthouse apartment.

Gulthaw hit the nail on the head here. There is no variety in path for same faction characters. A saving grace for you will be to roll your alt on the other faction. While it will be the same planets, at least the Planet Story Arcs AND Class Quests will be completely different. At any point in WoW I could usually think of several zones on different continents where I could go to level or grind, and I'm not just referring to the starting areas. Post 60, when you hit Outlands and beyond, it did become a lot more linear. But even then you had a large series of connected, non instanced zones, the freedom of flying mounts and multi-tiered/phased areas.

Long story short. I can completely relate to the OP, and several others posting in this thread, and I am still 5 levels from hitting the cap. I am having my fun, but at some point when the story runs out, I believe I will find myself much more interested in GW2/TERA than logging on to repeat the same content.

I think a large problem is the complete removal of outdoor/public heroic/elite leveling areas and dungeons (you know, those things where people grouped up just to kill things for loot and experience, with respawning bosses and large loot tables). Additionally the leveling speed of the western MMO market has become atrocious. In Everquest it took months and months to get to level cap. The focus was on getting levels and new skills, and then eventually at cap AA's and Gear. Today it seems as though it's a huge race to level cap (one week tops), and then you have nothing to look forward to above and beyond some new gear which provides marginal benefit.

I personally miss the feeling of working on 5 or 6 levels for a week or more in one zone, and then, holy crap! this new area I'm in is awesome! And getting to spend another week exploring and leveling there, or various public dungeons with a solid group, socializing and *gasp* really getting to know the people and community you play your game with.

Not all directed at Bioware/SWTOR. I have thoroughly enjoyed the Story and Game, I can just see the light at the end of the leveling tunnel and am not naive enough to believe it's not the freight train of end game grind coming my way.


TL;DR: -- Good Post OP. I'm a casual player, am not at cap yet, and can see the potential boredom now that I'm nearing the end of my class quests (Level 45). Only option is alts on other faction.

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hegyitaho
02.08.2012 , 10:53 AM | #62
yes that's the answer you have to wait for content (I'm waiting for arena) so just cancel subscription until that happens and give it a whirl then.

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Snibb
02.08.2012 , 10:54 AM | #63
To those of you saying this game isn't WoW reskinned... to a point you're right. WoW had MORE options at launch (let alone the options it has now.) To be competative with games out now, when you release a game you need to be on par with where the competition is NOW, not 8 years ago when it came out.
If you level alts at all, it becomes painfully obvious that there is one path you can take. If you're republic, everyone goes to Coruscant around 10, then you finish and go to Taris, then Nar Shadaa, etc. Every other MMO I've played the past 15 years gave you choices where you could explore at any particular level. Discovery and exploration are fun! To be on par with other MMO's we'd need around 2-3x the planets that are available to us now.
How can you not provide social things like guild banks, guild achievements, or even something that guilds can build together? This promotes unity.
If this game is to survive, these things need to come sooner than later.
For the CEO to say that they have a superior MMO is complete ignorance to what other MMO's offer.
I don't feel that these expectations are too high, even if you consider what other MMO's have offered at launch in the past 10 years. Guildmates that I've played with for a long time already quit in disappointment, please do something to bring them back.
Let the shoosting begin!

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Chessack
02.08.2012 , 10:59 AM | #64
But what else can you expect at endgame other than repeating stuff, at least eventually. It's a physical impossibility by the laws of the universe for Bioware to create an infinite amount of content that can never be repeated. So at some point you HAVE to be done with your first time through, then your second, and all that will be left is repeating it. I don't really understand what all the "I want more endgame" people want. Even quadrupling the content would only entertain you for a couple of weeks of hardcore playing (if that) and then you'd be bored again.

Nobody could meet the demands you people are placing on this game. You even admit WOW didn't, and WOW has had 7 years more to add new content post-launch than TOR has had.

You people burn through content like it's going out of style and then complain there is not enough content. You did this to yourself.

I've been playing since day 1 of EA. My highest character is still level 34. I have a couple of level 15 alts and a 24. And I play quite a lot. I just don't burn through it as fast as possible, and I don't try to max out my XP gain/hour. From my end the game has so much content I can't possibly do it all on a single toon.

Now, I'm not saying that powerleveling through content and doing it ASAP is wrong or anything, but if you do that, you really have no one to blame but yourself that you burned through it. It's like you bought the DVDs of the 6 Star Wars movies, fast-forwarded through all of them to get to the end, and are now complaining that the movies "didn't last long enough".
Back in the game after playing a long time ago, in a year far, far away...

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Thorun
02.08.2012 , 11:01 AM | #65
oh haha awesome Fanbois Vs. Fanbois

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RycheMykola
02.08.2012 , 11:02 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Snibb View Post
To those of you saying this game isn't WoW reskinned... to a point you're right. WoW had MORE options at launch (let alone the options it has now.) To be competative with games out now, when you release a game you need to be on par with where the competition is NOW, not 8 years ago when it came out.
If you level alts at all, it becomes painfully obvious that there is one path you can take. If you're republic, everyone goes to Coruscant around 10, then you finish and go to Taris, then Nar Shadaa, etc. Every other MMO I've played the past 15 years gave you choices where you could explore at any particular level. Discovery and exploration are fun! To be on par with other MMO's we'd need around 2-3x the planets that are available to us now.
How can you not provide social things like guild banks, guild achievements, or even something that guilds can build together? This promotes unity.
If this game is to survive, these things need to come sooner than later.
For the CEO to say that they have a superior MMO is complete ignorance to what other MMO's offer.
I don't feel that these expectations are too high, even if you consider what other MMO's have offered at launch in the past 10 years. Guildmates that I've played with for a long time already quit in disappointment, please do something to bring them back.
WOW didn't get guild achievements until Cata.

If you read any patch notes, guild banks are coming. along with many more flashpoints, operations, warzones, dailies, and a new Companion. :-)

WOW is the same thing..............you start out in your level 1-5 zone, go to the next zone to level that is on par for your level, etc. You cannot go to a Cata zone at level 1 and do quests.

Low level PVP in WOW sucks too. You either wait 2 days for a queue, then go up against FOTM class with BOA gear and have 0 chance at doing anything. Low level PVP is pretty good here.

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DarthMeerkat
02.08.2012 , 11:03 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Snibb View Post
To those of you saying this game isn't WoW reskinned... to a point you're right. WoW had MORE options at launch
You didn't play WoW at launch did you?

WoW had no raids (I don't recall MC being up for a while) or BGs.
DDE

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Aryzyra
02.08.2012 , 11:09 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Amaie View Post
Ahh, the ADHD generation... I've found plenty to do once I've reached 50. Don't know where you guys are going wrong, but with daily pvp quests, daily PVE quests on Belsavis and Illum, Flashpoints with my guild, and trying to get my happy *** to battlemaster, I still have to stay up WAY too late for my liking. oh an for crafting, I just mae myself some reusable grenades, giving myself an extra stun/slow every 5 minutes, so it can't be completely useless...
OCD calling normal people ADHD is amusing.

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Mephismo
02.08.2012 , 11:09 AM | #69
I honestly don’t understand what you were expecting, its been well publicised and you probably played beta
Your expecting someone to re-invent the wheel ?
Take a break come back later the game will still be here.

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Jswizzle
02.08.2012 , 11:14 AM | #70
Yeah I'm still not so bored I'm suddenly going to start some QQ.

If you are that bored already you have only yourself to blame. You are focusing too much attention on the video game. If you remember all the quests and can't replay them I have to suggest you unplug from the game every couple days.

I've literally played through all of Corusant 3 times. I didn't do it all in the same day, that would be like torturing myself. I did it over the span of 3 weeks, and I'm looking forward to going through it again on another class in a week or two.