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Dear BioWare, I am... bored.

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TonyACT
02.08.2012 , 02:56 PM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMeerkat View Post
I have serious doubts. There is no way in hell that in only two days worth of /played time you manged to run out of content.
Haven't run out yet - still have 20 odd days on my sub - just based on what I have done to date - will be close to running out by then. As mentioned, not complaining - had fun - but reminds me of Fable on the console, fun for a shorter time than I was hoping.

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DarthMeerkat
02.08.2012 , 02:56 PM | #222
Quote: Originally Posted by TonyACT View Post
Never spent any time in EQ grinding mobs all alone by myself. Had a great guild and friend list. And I agree on the enjoyment, had fun here.
If thats the case whats preventing you from doing the same in TOR?
DDE

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VenthiosLestaran
02.08.2012 , 02:57 PM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMeerkat View Post
But thats not really content, that community and that is something that YOU have to take on.

I find it odd that people think this way. You where grinding things back in EQ, badly might I add.
Yes, you were grinding. However, it did not Feel like grinding. Not like we know it today. Conversation - boss spawns - they helped break up the monotony. However I did say that EQ1 was mechanically awful as far as game to fun raitio went if you look at it from Just the game standpoint.

EQ1's social aspect came from a different time as well, this is recognized. MMOG's were extremely niche. It was a benefit to the genre I believe that WoW kind of stuck the final knife in. When people don't group for Heroic 4's, or 2's, it's because they honestly don't feel they need to. The gear/exp isn't all that incredible and they just go on their merry way.

Social gathering areas in SWTOR are - nil. The cantinas are lifeless places that have nothing to facilitate a sense of gathering, chairs, conversation bubbles, emotes while sitting. These are little things that really spice up what's available to you. However, they chose not to add these right away because - well they figured people would be busy playing. However, to foster community - which is what they tried to do without the dungeon finder as Everyone on the forums pre launch was hating on the idea, simply didn't pan out because the game simply gets you into the "I solo" mentality, especially with the HUGE crowd of solo RPG players the game attracted.

That being said, grouping will pick up in a few months once the slow rpg casual players hit 50. In EQ1 you had to group if you weren't a shaman/mage/necromancer. If you were ballsy, you soloed on an Enchanter. Also the lack of an auction house created a need for player run sales. Another big hit to Community was the invent of the AH/Bazaar. It completely removed interaction from sales.

Anyway, I don't need to go on. MMO's need to actively design ways to MAKE people get together beyond "LF Dungeon". GW2's trying to redesign this aspect in some ways SWTOR is not.
"Above all else; we must have faith in our path." My wife ordered us both Collector's Edition's..

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TonyACT
02.08.2012 , 03:01 PM | #224
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMeerkat View Post
If thats the case whats preventing you from doing the same in TOR?
I think it's the lack of variety / depth in systems.

I'm playing EQ2 atm as well. As 2 examples; the alternate advancement system and the deep crafting system give me 2 more things to do with my time. There are lots more. of course, it has been around for ages so not saying TOR should be there yet - but if it is a choice of where to spend money, newer games have more of a challenge when there are so many options - just expected TOR to have been more of a pull on my wallet than it has.

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pgrantham
02.08.2012 , 03:01 PM | #225
Quote: Originally Posted by djsmileey View Post
Why do you even bother? You are clearly displeased with the game. Personally I don't force myself to do things I don't enjoy.
Can a paying supporter of Bioware and Star Wars not hope for improvements?

Why do I bother? Why do you think I bother?

Of course, I am displeased with the game...so are a lot of other people! And your solution is to condescendingly speak down to us and tell us to quit?

OBVIOUSLY, you are displeased as well, otherwise you would not resort to such an empty response.

I want this game to succeed, and the fans are VOICING their concerns and hopes!

But I'll just listen to your wisdom for life and just not force myself to do things I don't enjoy ...sigh.

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Karraway
02.08.2012 , 03:02 PM | #226
I agree op,hit 50 bored and for 10% content difference I can't be bothered to lvl to 50 with an alt all over again.Big problem is the rail system,at least wow had a couple of options of areas to level in.
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ShaftyMcShaft
02.08.2012 , 03:03 PM | #227
Right there with you OP. Leveling an opposite faction alt to see the other side before my sub runs out. I'll resub in a year if they ever get their act together. Assuming the game survives that long.

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PjPablo
02.08.2012 , 03:03 PM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMeerkat View Post
Slowing down leveling would throw MMOs back into the Pre-WoW (Took me two months to get to 60 in Vanilla) dark ages where you had to grind the crap out of things.

Its the mentality of "I have to get to endgame to enjoy it" thats making people burn through content.
So make it super easy so that everyone gets there very quickly and can gear up in a week or two only to sit around and say there isn't anything to do but reroll and start over?

They might as well rename this The Alt Republic then.

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Hawtubb
02.08.2012 , 03:04 PM | #229
agreed. I have not logged in for 3 days now and have no desire to do so given that my options upon logging in are

1. play warzones and hope my wins actually count towards the daily/weekly

2. travel to ilum and participate in an EPIC kill trading pvp battle

3. spam general chat to find a group for a HM/ops.
Pre - CU Jedi/BH Naritus
Hawtubb/Captain/Hawtubbbaca
the stunning Open World PVP on Ilum; when you get to the high levels prepare to be blown away! lol BioFail http://www.swtor.com/blog/what%E2%80...t-old-republic

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Razyr
02.08.2012 , 03:05 PM | #230
Quote: Originally Posted by ademnus View Post
with respect to the OP, I note your join date in these forums was 2011...
That was for this account. My main account, named after my SWG toon from years ago, goes back to 09. I switched accounts right after ordering, because that account went to my oldest son. The kids got Digital copies, wife and I went with install disc's.

To be completely honest, that account went to my youngest son, then to his older brother because of some sort of logic that only makes sense if you have multiple teenagers. I kinda understand it, something about who bought the GW3 XBoX disc, but really...

Don't get me started on my 15 year old taking it upon himself to set up the security code for that account and then forgetting the password. It took my (brilliant) wife over an hour to figure out what password he had used.
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