Dear BioWare, I am... bored.

That might keep me playing until the 19th but I would not pay for another month. The problem for me is not the lack of content, it is that they focused on story. I don't like an MMO that holds up a trophy for one thing while everything else is crumbling around them. The end result is lack of content, but more than that Bioware managed to poop out an MMO. A really painful passing that must have been (and was apparantly). Maybe some people REALLY like voice dialogue and stuff, I don't. I grew up with Everquest, WoW, well pretty much most of them and they were fine.

I guess this type of MMO style is not for me

What is "extensive itemization"?

This game has the worst post 50 content experience I've ever seen in any MMO. It is the MECCA of all scams. They made it seem like it was SO amazing, so complete, so polished, that it took YEARS to create, hundreds of millions for perfection - all just one fat marketing lie. Someone should definitely class action EA and refund 2 million people for this sorry POS.

Well I never got past level 18 in WOW so I can't comment on its endgame.

BUT... BUT...

the OP said this in criticism of TOR's endgame:


So the OP was calling the WOW endgame a "hamster wheel" which I take to mean repetitive.

This means YOU ARE MAKING MY POINT FOR ME, which is that NO AMOUNT OF CONTENT any team of devs makes for endgame will ever be enough. Ever! Because the OP was complaining about the WOW endgame being a "hamster wheel." That's right, even the game you all say TOR should have been more like, was still too repetitive and had too little endgame content for the OP.

My point wasn't that TOR has enough, but that no game will EVER have enough to satisfy you people... because what you really want is a game that goes to level infinity, and has new content from level 1 to level infinity. And that's impossible.

And the really REALLY annoying part is that deep down you all KNOW what you're asking for is impossible, but you are asking for it anyway. I mean you don't even hide it, because in the same breath as complaining that TOR doesn't have enough to satisfy you, you also admit that WOW, which arguably has the most content ever release of any game in the history of all video gaming since the dawn of computers, doesn't have enough.

Nothing will ever be enough when people burn through content as hard and as fast as you folks do. Not if all the dev teams of all the MMOs on earth got together and built one game could they put out content fast enough to keep up with you guys.

As I say, come on now. You guys know all this is true. So why this charade of pretending to be outraged by not being given something that you know is impossible in the first place?

Really now, who is kidding whom?

Well I never got past level 18 in WOW so I can't comment on its endgame.

BUT... BUT...

the OP said this in criticism of TOR's endgame:


So the OP was calling the WOW endgame a "hamster wheel" which I take to mean repetitive.

This means YOU ARE MAKING MY POINT FOR ME, which is that NO AMOUNT OF CONTENT any team of devs makes for endgame will ever be enough. Ever! Because the OP was complaining about the WOW endgame being a "hamster wheel." That's right, even the game you all say TOR should have been more like, was still too repetitive and had too little endgame content for the OP.

My point wasn't that TOR has enough, but that no game will EVER have enough to satisfy you people... because what you really want is a game that goes to level infinity, and has new content from level 1 to level infinity. And that's impossible.

And the really REALLY annoying part is that deep down you all KNOW what you're asking for is impossible, but you are asking for it anyway. I mean you don't even hide it, because in the same breath as complaining that TOR doesn't have enough to satisfy you, you also admit that WOW, which arguably has the most content ever release of any game in the history of all video gaming since the dawn of computers, doesn't have enough.

Nothing will ever be enough when people burn through content as hard and as fast as you folks do. Not if all the dev teams of all the MMOs on earth got together and built one game could they put out content fast enough to keep up with you guys.

As I say, come on now. You guys know all this is true. So why this charade of pretending to be outraged by not being given something that you know is impossible in the first place?

Really now, who is kidding whom?

Sounds like some people are burnt out on MMOs.

You can blame it on ToR but the reality is that this is a solid game. I've been through a dozen MMO launches and I don't think I've ever seen any launch go this smoothly.

Even then, it's still an MMO. If you're looking for something new, play something that's not an MMO.

I would recommend Minecraft, especially multiplayer.

You are completely missing the point the OP was trying to make in the first place because you're so locked into the WoW themepark MMO model. In your eyes, the only possibility is to churn out instance after instance, raid after raid. This is the only content you can imagine. Just more tracks added to the rail way.

What some people are looking for is not just more content that can be devoured and left behind soon after, but content that is sustainable. Adding elements into the game that are compelling enough, and variable enough, to keep people interested. This means user created content, compelling PvP ala DAoC style, alternate advancement, freedom of customization, etc etc.

Last night I got home from work, helped the kids with their homework, we did the nightly chores around the house and caught up on the day. After dinner I sit down at the computer and log in, quick patch download, get to the character selection screen and...

...realize there isn't anything I want to do that I haven't done a million other times in other mmo's. The game just isn't offering anything exciting once you get through the story. There isn't even the slightest bit of sandbox play. Crafting is pointless, no, utterly useless. There really isn't anything fun to do.

This isn't another 'ragequit' post. I'm not quitting, yet. I've defended this game for the last two months, only to discover that after the initial story, it's boring as hell.

At least in EVERY OTHER MMO I have ever played I could roll out an alt and explore other classes, see different aspects of the world and explore new areas. Here it's the same linear path, same quests, same same same.

Couldn't possibly disagree more.

I am on my 2nd 50,(@49 right now) and have two other 30+'s

If you alternate Republic / Empire, it's not nearly as bad.

If you don't enjoy the game, thats to bad.

I do find it interesting you think that posting this thread will do anything.

You are saying what? "Dear Bioware, I am bored -- fix me", "Also, please excuse the fact that tons of others enjoy your game, I am the only one that matters."

This you post in the GENERAL discussion where you know it won't get any kind of response except for a potential deletion. So you don't use proper channels, but I bet you will use the argument that you are trying to "help" the game. Which we all know is a giant lie. You are just biding time trying to sabotage the game you won't play anymore until the next game comes along. I am sure you will end up doing the same thing there.

Last night I got home from work, helped the kids with their homework, we did the nightly chores around the house and caught up on the day. After dinner I sit down at the computer and log in, quick patch download, get to the character selection screen and...

...realize there isn't anything I want to do that I haven't done a million other times in other mmo's. The game just isn't offering anything exciting once you get through the story. There isn't even the slightest bit of sandbox play. Crafting is pointless, no, utterly useless. There really isn't anything fun to do.

This isn't another 'ragequit' post. I'm not quitting, yet. I've defended this game for the last two months, only to discover that after the initial story, it's boring as hell.

At least in EVERY OTHER MMO I have ever played I could roll out an alt and explore other classes, see different aspects of the world and explore new areas. Here it's the same linear path, same quests, same same same.