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Yojack build 2012 Trooper question and answer thread!

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Yojack build 2012 Trooper question and answer thread!

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Varagan
12.14.2011 , 01:40 PM | #41
Can give some advice on how you have abilities mapped?

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Matmius
12.14.2011 , 01:49 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by MalissTSL View Post
From a PvP tanking perspective you need to proc Ion Cell for our only snare (not including sweltering heat from a tanking perspective because if you're tanking you don't want to cell swap for a chance to apply a snare that prohibits you from guarding). Since Stockstrike is the only guaranteed way to proc Ion Cell and hence our snare and said snare only lasts 2 seconds I'd be opposed to any change that decreased my opportunities to Stockstrike.


The problem you appear to have with the synergy of the talents you mentioned is that the DoT is weak and will be overwritten in a single target tanking situation. To me the point of the DoT from Ion Overload isn't the damage but rather the DoT itself enables the use of High Impact Bolt.

Fully Talented in a tanking (shield) spec Stockstrike auto procs Ion Cell, applies a snare and a DoT to the target (which in turn allows the use of High Impact Bolt), has a 30% increased crit chance, and does 30% more crit damage. It also hits 8% harder with 2 points in Assault.

Trading more Stockstrikes for more Pulse Cannon's which gets no direct benefits in the Shield tree and is so situational in PvP seems like it would be even less useful and provide less synergy than what you are trying to replace it with. If your major issue is the DoT being overwritten why not hit another target? Pulse Cannon is going to be a DPS loss in single target situations so it will have no use in single target situations at all, so refreshing it's cooldown instead of Stockstrike is going to be worthless.
When you boil it down, the argument you are making is "I need more Stockstrikes so I can do more Stockstrikes," which doesnt really make any sense

What im saying is to lessen the reliance on Stockstrike, and allow us to use another 10m AoE attack in tanking situations that we currently cannot use. We would still need to stay inside the 10m range, and with Storm and Harpoon, we would still be able to close the melee gap to use stockstrike on CD essentially every time, at least through 27 seconds(3 CDs of Stockstrike) of a fight, IF you had to use Storm/Harpoon EVERY time to close the gap, which isn't likely.

Ion Pulse is 10m.
Energy Blast is 10m.
Pulse Cannon is 10m.
HIB is 30m.
Sticky Grenage is 30m.

Changing the Static Shield talent to Pulse Cannon would allow us to not have to do a silly rat race to stay at the 4m range, yet still keep us up close to use the devistating Stockstrike and DoT when the CD is up.

I think it would add HUGE dimensions to the gameplay and be just as, if not more crushingly deadly.

I know it would be huge fun to time your Storm or Harpoon to coincide with Stockstrike coming off CD, smash them in the face with the butt of my gun, then back off while they are slow and go to work using the ranged arsenal that we have.

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Yojack
12.14.2011 , 02:20 PM | #43
When i have more time ill update level per level placement of points ....but basically ss until storm...then tactics
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MrSpock
12.14.2011 , 10:50 PM | #44
Many thanks for the info, seems like a solid skill tree build. I look forward to seeing your skill order, would be cool to have as a reference before I start my own skill order tomorrow
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blindstrike
12.15.2011 , 02:13 AM | #45
TY m8 i always have a hard time making builds , i use yours as a guide

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Failhoew
12.15.2011 , 04:28 AM | #46
I think i will be rolling with this, more dmg and utility focused

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801GRGMdRbRZrsMMoZb.1

Havent played much so feedback and comments are appriciated!

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Yojack
12.15.2011 , 04:38 AM | #47
I have a macro set up to HIB, Stockstrike, ion Pulse, hammer shot. Pretty much just spam that vs solo targets, and pulse cannon/sticky grenade the aoe packs. Works like a charm and leveling is cake =)
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Ghostdoggg
12.15.2011 , 04:53 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Yojack View Post
I have a macro set up to HIB, Stockstrike, ion Pulse, hammer shot. Pretty much just spam that vs solo targets, and pulse cannon/sticky grenade the aoe packs. Works like a charm and leveling is cake =)
What keyboard/mouse u use?

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Thunder_Fury
12.15.2011 , 05:26 AM | #49
How do you rest the talens for the trooper ?

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Kesrik
12.15.2011 , 06:19 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Thunder_Fury View Post
How do you rest the talens for the trooper ?
I stop using them for a few seconds, and give them a breather!

If you are asking how to "reset" the "talents" for a Trooper . . . go to the "Skill Advisor" trainer and tell him you want to reset talents.
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