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Vanguard 50 PVP Video: 4/6/31 All-Out DPS Spec


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This video covers the 4/6/31 “all-out” DPS PVP spec:

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801bMZMsZfhMbdGGMs.1

 

This spec synergizes around the strong offensive capabilities of the Assault Specialist tree, in particular the mechanics for High Impact Bolt and Elemental damage.

 

I queued solo for the Alderaan match in the video as a 52 Valor Rank Vanguard with 8 pieces of Champion gear.

 

For more information about Vanguard PVP, please refer to my free in-depth Guide. To see me PVP’ing live, check out my TwitchTV channel. My stream features real-time commentary – and to the extent possible interaction with the Chat Room.

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I've been deep Assault for a long time myself (0/10/31) and I feel as though for pvp if one is going for Assault spec it is better off to sacrifice the few percentage of damage in not having Intimidation and Brutal Impact and pick up Tactical Tools and Containment Tactics instead.

 

Those seconds of reduced cooldown I think will have a much better chance of saving lives and causing chaos on the enemy team more often than the slightly more damage will.

 

Also damage can always been improved by intelligent gear stats distribution, cooldowns cannot.

 

But of course if one is planning to use the HiB bonus crit PvP set than I can see they will benefit more from 4/6/31. Combat Tech PvP set however focus on neural surge and stockstrike so I feel as though putting more points in Tactics rather than any points in Shields improves it even more.

 

Also, I'm not too certain of the benefit of taking Reflexive Shield without taking Degauss because, Degauss was the derooter of the spec, and Reflexive Shield's main benefit is to make that more available. Reactive shield really very rarely saves one from death if they are being focus on when you are using plasma cell anyways. Better off to use that as a second "situational get back mobility" ability.

 

That's just my humble opinion.

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I've been deep Assault for a long time myself (0/10/31) and I feel as though for pvp if one is going for Assault spec it is better off to sacrifice the few percentage of damage in not having Intimidation and Brutal Impact and pick up Tactical Tools and Containment Tactics instead.

 

Understood.

 

I listed this spec as the option for people who want all-out DPS, not a balance between damage and CC.

 

I've been criticized on this forum for advocating specs that have 10+ point sin Tactics to round out Assault Spec builds.

 

Also, I'm not too certain of the benefit of taking Reflexive Shield without taking Degauss because, Degauss was the derooter of the spec, and Reflexive Shield's main benefit is to make that more available. Reactive shield really very rarely saves one from death if they are being focus on when you are using plasma cell anyways. Better off to use that as a second "situational get back mobility" ability

 

Understood.

 

I tried the talents in this order, what I projected (incorrectly) to be best:

1. Degauss

2. PCS

3. NVS

 

I was hoping Degauss would be the silver bullet for curing the mobility limitations of Assault Spec builds, but I found that waiting to use the bubble to break a root / snare ended up getting me killed more than popping the bubble when I needed the mitigation.

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Understood.

 

I tried the talents in this order, what I projected (incorrectly) to be best:

1. Degauss

2. PCS

3. NVS

 

I was hoping Degauss would be the silver bullet for curing the mobility limitations of Assault Spec builds, but I found that waiting to use the bubble to break a root / snare ended up getting me killed more than popping the bubble when I needed the mitigation.

 

Actually I feel what you are saying. Degauss would definitely not necessary save one if they are constantly getting snared (since Degauss, unlike Hold the Line, does not provide a short root/snare immunity).

 

I tend to found though that at the end of the day, I pop Reactive Shield for the purpose of deguass more often than for the purpose of damage reduction myself, since I found that reactive shield is most useful when against Sorc's lightning (which is a snare and attack which shield will work against) and against the sniper or the sith warrior's root and snare, which also are the situations where reactive shield with deguass truely serves it's dual purpose at the same time.

 

Other situations I've found the reactive shield really doesn't help that much for it's damage reduction potential.

 

Fortunately of course as an Assault spec our advantage is also be able to cause significant damage at range (even if it is not as good as when we are in 10m), so snare is not as major a concern as oppose to deep Tactics specced vanguards.

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Either that or a 3-pt channel (e.g. Mortar Volley).

 

Channeled skill would be a waste because you would regen most if not all of your ammo by the time the skill is finished and you can actually use your next skill, unless you are for some reason waiting for 2 arrows of regen to start using these skills. Only other skill I would consider using it on is Ion Pulse.

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Channeled skill would be a waste because you would regen most if not all of your ammo by the time the skill is finished and you can actually use your next skill, unless you are for some reason waiting for 2 arrows of regen to start using these skills. Only other skill I would consider using it on is Ion Pulse.

 

Understood.

 

It depends what your Ammo is at when you start the Mortar Volley.

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I run that exact spec, and I love it. I dearly miss storm, but the burst makes up for it.

 

You didn't showcase the "dirty" thing you can do with the spec. If you pop battle focus, an adrenal, and relic, with or without the red expertise buff, you can chain crit for 4k+

 

I don't know about you, but I like critting for 4k or more.

 

 

Pop dmg buffs > IR > AP > HiB > IP > Stockstrike(HIB rng)

 

Basically pop all you got, then do your rotation while charging at them. They will not survive.

 

Disclaimer: you need at least champ gear to get the big numbers.

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I'm running this spec for 65 Valor Ranks and I'm loving it.

 

A few things to consider, you are a bit of a glass cannon. Using Stockstrike/Ion Pulse to get the HIB reset, you are in their faces, therefore you are getting focused quite often - without a healer you are hitting the ground quickly.

 

On the other hand, if you are getting used with the timing, the burst can be immense -

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You didn't showcase the "dirty" thing you can do with the spec. If you pop battle focus, an adrenal, and relic, with or without the red expertise buff, you can chain crit for 4k+

 

I think Taugrim didn't showcase it probably because the situation in the video didn't required it.

 

From my experience it is powerful when you pop them, however in most cases you don't need it. Only when it is really required to take down a particularly annoying healer or got forced into a difficult 1v1 would you really need to pop them to guarrantee victory. Most of the time AP + HiB + Stockstrike already hits way more than hard enough for it's purpose.

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Im using basicly the same spec, with one little difference.

I have 2 points into adrenaline fueled, instead of 2 points in intimidation.

Im a fresh level 50 with all orange gear, have a basechance of 31% of crit with tech attacks.

Pop a critstim and battlefocus, ill have close to 70% crit with tech attacks, that alone will reduce the cooldown on reserve powercell and adrenaline rush quite a bit.

At least for me, that is way more valuable than a 6% increase in elemental damage.

Just my 2 cents.

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I run that exact spec, and I love it. I dearly miss storm, but the burst makes up for it.

 

You didn't showcase the "dirty" thing you can do with the spec. If you pop battle focus, an adrenal, and relic, with or without the red expertise buff, you can chain crit for 4k+

 

I don't know about you, but I like critting for 4k or more.

 

 

Pop dmg buffs > IR > AP > HiB > IP > Stockstrike(HIB rng)

 

Basically pop all you got, then do your rotation while charging at them. They will not survive.

 

Disclaimer: you need at least champ gear to get the big numbers.

 

Adrenal doesn't stack with Expertise buff...

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