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Greatest Force User of All Time

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Greatest Force User of All Time

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Tuscad
02.17.2012 , 04:44 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Chuckskyline View Post
Highly doubt it.

Vader wanted Luke to join him.. to uh.. defeat the Emperor? So they could rule the galaxy as father and son?

No?

Not to mention Luke survived the emperor's force lighting for quite a long time.. considering mace flew out the window in like 3 seconds.
Different Voltage, Palpatine wanted to make Luke suffer, Mace was more of a liability to torture continously.
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Darth_Malevolent
02.17.2012 , 05:02 PM | #62
Me....
The Dark Side is Omnipotent in this one

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ChewiesArmy
02.17.2012 , 06:51 PM | #63
I think me. Earlier I told my son to throw away his lunch and he did. Luke never did that.
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Kanshan
02.17.2012 , 07:00 PM | #64
Luke was the most powerful if you read the books about him.
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Jmannseelo
02.17.2012 , 07:05 PM | #65
Jar Jar Binks, no question. I mean, just look at the guy. He stumbles and bumbles his way through everything as if he's completely clueless and inept, and yet somehow things always end up working in his favor. In the Battle of Naboo he was wiping out battledroids all over the place and I don't think he even knows how he did it. That, my friends, is an incredibly gifted natural force user in action. I'd go as far as to say he is the best drunken-style force user the galaxy has ever seen.

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Raynn
02.17.2012 , 08:02 PM | #66
Have to go with Luke on this one. Especially if we're looking at the EU. Hell, even in ROTJ (if you read the book, for some reason Lucas kept this part out of the movie) Luke starts to deflect some of the Emperor's lightning wth his own hands. Granted he only blocks a few because the Emp was pouring on the pain, but with the small amount of training Luke had at that time it was still an impressve feat.

Luke's only disadvantage was he was never as politically savy as Sidius was. Sidius was the master at shifting people where he wanted them. It's what gave him the edge and allowed him to accomplish what no other Sith ever had.

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meshade
02.17.2012 , 08:06 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Kanshan View Post
Luke was the most powerful if you read the books about him.
So if I don't read them, he is not the most powerful? I'm down with that :>
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gregordunbar
02.17.2012 , 08:11 PM | #68
If its no contest and its Luke...because the books say so...then please point out the passage to me where it says that Luke CREATED LIFE with the force...oh wait he couldnt, but someone else could...not to metion a certain someone that could drain all life on an entire planet with the force.

Luke was a chump compared to the big boys.

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Raynn
02.17.2012 , 08:19 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by gregordunbar View Post
If its no contest and its Luke...because the books say so...then please point out the passage to me where it says that Luke CREATED LIFE with the force...oh wait he couldnt, but someone else could...not to metion a certain someone that could drain all life on an entire planet with the force.

Luke was a chump compared to the big boys.
True, Luke never learned to bring people back from the dead (as far as I know) , but he did rediscover several force techniques and even invented a few himself. So it could swing either way if you're looking at specific 'powers' as the defining factor for who was the strongest.

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Aloro
02.17.2012 , 08:39 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by gregordunbar View Post
If its no contest and its Luke...because the books say so...then please point out the passage to me where it says that Luke CREATED LIFE with the force...oh wait he couldnt, but someone else could...not to metion a certain someone that could drain all life on an entire planet with the force.
Luke had more raw power than any other Force user; that's G-canon (i.e. Lucas himself has said it; there's no arguing it). You can argue about who you think OUGHT to be most powerful, in the same sense that you can argue why the sky might look nicer if it were green. The sky is blue though, and Luke Skywalker was the most powerful Force user of all time. Those are just the facts, as stated by quite a lot of people already.

Luke didn't know all the force powers, but he knew an awful lot of them, and was incredibly powerful with what he knew. He couldn't create life, no, but he could teleport things around, or literally resist the pull of a black hole, or pull thoughts out of your head, or create illusions with the Force, or a LOT of other things.

Plageuis didn't know how to teleport things around, that we know. But then the question wasn't "Which Force user knew the most Force powers?" The answer to that is Sidious, as far as we know, though some of the ancient Sith lords (unnamed and so far unwritten about) might have known a variety of powers we haven't heard of.

To put this simply, Luke > Black Hole > Everyone else.

There are force creatures that were created to be on Luke's scale (gods and planets, basically), but they're not mortals like him. And, well, he defeats them, too.

Luke was the full manifestation of the Chosen One; had had all his father's potential, and realized it. He was literally descended from the Force itself, through his father, who was built to be strong enough to fulfill his destiny despite ANY opposition. Vader could have been 200% as strong as Sidious, but ended up being only 80% as strong. Luke however reached that potential, and was twice as powerful as Sidious in the long run (i.e. after Luke became Grand Master). That's not my opinion; it's canon.

Lucas has stated plainly that Sidious was the most powerful Sith in Galactic history, as well.

These questions have known answers. There's nothing to debate.